SELWYN brickwall

[lildav]

Hi everyone,   I am having a problem finding any of my Selwyn ancestors.   I have a Rebecca Selwyn married to a James Hobbs (my GGGrandad) in the parish of Avening on 27th April 1840.  (I have the cert)  Her father is down as James Selwyn, labourer.  Rebecca died in Westhoughton Lancashire on  15/08/1888 age 71 making her birth year c 1819.  I can find no trace of her, her father, mother or any siblings before this date of 1840.  She & James had 11 children:-
Hannah  1842
John       1843
Joseph   1845
Sarah     1850
Betsy     1850
Elizabeth  1851
Mary       1854
Charles     1856
Thomas    1857
William    1860
Frederick   1861   (my GGrandad)

they were all born in Gloucestershire and the names Nagshead, Bagpath and Avening are all mentioned in the Hobbs family.   Between 1871 and 1881 many of the Hobbs relations came up to Lancashire & settled in Westhoughton, Bolton.   Can anyone shed any light on this for me? I would be eternally grateful, Lilian

[Mum44]

Hello Lilian

I'm not sure whether this is going to take you forward, but it seems from the censuses that Rebecca was born in Wiltshire. 

You don't mention whether you have the census information ?

If not, shall I give you some details?

[Valda]

Have you cross checked Rebecca's surname on the marriage certificate with information on one of her children's birth certificates to see if the Selwyn surname is confirmed by it?
There are no Selwyns in the Hankerton Wiltshire parish registers showing on the British Vital Records Index (BVRI). There are Selbys.

SELBY, Rebecca   
Christening Date:21 Dec 1817   Hankerton, Wiltshire
Father:James SELBY
Mother:Ann

1861, 1871 and 1881 censuses Rebecca Hobbs gives her age as 44, 54 and 64

Regards

Valda

[Mum44]

Valda - I was pleased to see your post - I couldn't find any Selwyns born in Hankerton on any census either - thought I was losing it - or that it was bedtime!

[lildav]

Good morning Mumm44 & Valda.   I would be pleased with any info you can give me wherever it is from.  The name on the wedding cert is definitely Selwyn for her and her father.  I only have one childs birth cert, Frederick my GGrandad, and his Mother on that is down as Silbrey but I have had a look for that name and come up with nothing.  After just looking at the 1871 census it says that Rebecca was born in Wiltshire.  It seems that  Selby is the way to go. I will have a good look later. I have to go out now for a little while.  Thank you SO much, you have opened an avenue for me where I thought I might be stuck.  You are both brill.........  Will get back when I have got my head round it later.   Thank you, Thank you, Lilian

[ChasH]

Lilian,

Hi everyone,   I am having a problem finding any of my Selwyn ancestors.   I have a Rebecca Selwyn married to a James Hobbs (my GGGrandad) in the parish of Avening on 27th April 1840.  (I have the cert) 

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As you do not give his father's name, does that mean you want nothing about James Hobbs?  I have lots of stuff from Avening.

Regards

Chas

[Mum44]

Good morning Lilian

Do you have access to all censuses ?  If not I'm happy to post some details for you.

Meanwhile - here's how I got to Hankerton.

1881 census - Rachel says b. Hankerton, Wilts.
1871 census - Rachel says b. Hamerton, Wilts
1861 census - Rachel says b. Ankeston, Glos
1851 census - rachel says b. Ankeston, Glos.

I googled Ankeston, Hamerton and Hankerton and Hankerton, Wilts was the only match.  Hankeston is about 5 miles as the crow flies from Avening.

However, as Valda says, there are no Selwyns living there on any census and I couldn't find any on any census who said they were born there either.

There are a few Selbys tho. Living there and born there. I wonder whether it might be an idea to get another of the birth certificates - since your Fredericks is only a partial match?  Does Rachel sign or make her mark?  Perhaps she couldn't read and write and the registrar wrote what he thought ?

Meanwhile - I'll keep looking any see what comes up

[ChasH]

Lilian,

In my records (hand written) I have some data from Painswick N.C. church and in them for 1823 is:-
"Thos Son of William & Rebecca Selwyn of Chalford was born March 9th 1823 & baptized Aug 21st following by me
                                                         Rob Meek

Thos may not be a sibling of of your Rebecca, so Chalford & Painswick gives you hope plus somewhere to occupy your time

Regards

Chas

[Mum44]

Don't think this fits at all, Chas.

The marriage certificate says her father was James