SELWYN brickwall

[lildav]

Hi, Finally got somewhere. Trying to send humungous sized attachments.  Hope they are clear enough.  Thanks for being patient with me, Regards Lilian

[Mum44]

Well done Lilian -  although it is most definately his birth certificate!

nevertheless, it isn't anything like Selwyn, and, it seems, since she made her mark,  Rebecca couldn't read and write - so the spelling wouldn't have been down to her.  The registrar would write what he heard - and I would say he certainly didn't hear Selwyn !

Still think, in view of the difference, best to get a confirmation one if you can...

sorry - you posted theother one while I was typing this - will look at it now

[Mum44]

Oh dear - I was hoping James the father's occupation would help, but I can't read it ! 

Can anyone else ?

[lildav]

I have had a magnifying glass over it and it says labourer but the long first L has faded on Rebeccas dads occupation.  If you compare it with the other fathers occupation they are the same really.

[Mum44]

Well, the James Selby we're looking at in Wiltshire was a labourer - so there's another + but then labourer wasn't an unusual occupation!

[lildav]

I am going to send for another birth cert although the most modern one is the one I have got as Frederick was the last child born.  I will also have a good look at the Selby family and I am secretly hopeful here that they are the ones.  When I get anything certain (or as near as I can be) I will post to let you know. Thank you all once again, you are a great bunch of people.  Kindest regards, Lilian

[Mum44]

You're very welcome - glad to help.

Let us know what the other cert. says - we'll be waiting!

[ChasH]

Lilian,

As you know, in the 1841 census J & R H were living in somewhere named Nag's Head.  That's not the name of a pub - at least there's no PH shown on the 100 year old map I have - it's small area with about 10 houses between Avening and Cherington.

I have quite a few 100 year old maps of the area and I've had look at five or six in the hope of finding a small area/cottage named Ankerton or something similar but no joy.  Perhaps Hankerton might be it, but where one remembers growing up is not necessarily where one was born.  And that's another spanner isn't it?

Regards

Chas

[Valda]

Avening and Hankerton are relatively close to each other - try Google maps

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4HPEA_en-GBGB236GB236&tab=wl

As I've already stated Hankerton parish records for this period are indexed on the BVRI - for information on the BVRI (a set of CDs which add further records to the IGI) see

http://genoot.com/downloads/BVRI2/

SELBY, William   
Christening Date:16 Feb 1812    Hankerton, Wiltshire
Father:James SELBY
Mother:Ann

SELBY, Mary-Ann   
Christening Date:8 Jan 1815 Hankerton, Wiltshire
Father:James SELBY
Mother:Ann

SELBY, Thomas   
Christening Date:3 Mar 1816 Hankerton, Wiltshire
Father:James SELBY
Mother:Ann

and as already given Rebecca

SELBY, Rebecca   
Christening Date:21 Dec 1817    Hankerton, Wiltshire
Father:James SELBY
Mother:Ann

Poole Keynes Wiltshire where a James and Ann Selby have been found on the 1841 and 1851 censuses with younger children born in the same place does not have any coverage either on the IGI or the BVRI. This website allows you to see what parishes do have coverage on the IGI (both Anglican and non-conformist) and for what periods and allows you to access just the index(es) on the IGI for individual parish registers.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/

SELBY, James   
Christening Date:15 Apr 1787   Hankerton, Wiltshire
Father:Thomas SELBY
Mother:Mary

Poole Keynes was in Cirencester registration district

Possible death registrations for James

Deaths Dec 1852 
SELBY  James     Cirencester  6a 216

or

Deaths Mar 1854   
Selby  James     Cirencester  6a 226

1861 census RG9 1783 folio 97
Poole Keynes, Wiltshire
Anne Selby  71  Henton, Wiltshire, Servant  Widow Housekeeper

1871 census RG10 2646 folio 26
Somerford Keynes Wiltshire
Ann Selby 81  Head Widow Formerly Ag lab's wife Trowbridge Wiltshire
living next door to her married daughter Eliza Radway and her family

Deaths Mar 1874   
SELBY  Ann  85  Cirencester  6a 26[_9]

Not sure where that gets you with Ann's birthplace. The marriage of Ann and James Selby is not showing on either the IGI or BVRI.

Regards

Valda