Amelia Sophia Hawar and Joseph Henry Williams

[wren]

Hi All
Am in a quandary My ggggg grandparents, Amelia Sophia Hawar and Joseph Henry Williams were married in Islington in the March quarter of 1843. They then had three children baptised at St Clement Danes, Westminster, London on 21st July 1848. Children were Amelia, Joseph Thomas and Mary Jane. Amelia and Mary Jane came to Australia where they married and had families. However, no family groups appear to neatly  fit the arrival of Amelia and Mary Jane and no single passengers seem to fit the age and time, particularly for Amelia. One ship The Herald of the Morning fits the age of the two girls, but the other names listed have no relation to my current information. Whilst I haven't discounted this I need further information. 

From this arises two other issues, firstly where does the surname Hawar come from? I've been searching for quite some time and seem to be getting nowhere fast for an answer to this question, and secondly could someone suggest where I might go to find some information on Joseph Thomas if he remained in England?

Regards
Wren

[suffolk*sue]

Do you have census information?

[wren]

Hi Sue
I did a search of the census and couldn't find anything, but thats not to say it isn't there.
I'm mainly wondering where the surname Hawar originated. I though maybe the middle east as there is a Hawar resort in Bahrain. Just not sure.
Thanks Wren

[suffolk*sue]

1841

HO107/686/17 - Finsbury, Liberty of the Rolls
Folio 11, Page 16
Serles Place

HARWAR

Thomas - 40 - law writer
Amelia - 15
Jeffrey - 15
Thomas - 6
John - 30 - law writer - not born in county
William Maclaine - 15 - law writer app.



On studying the 1841, the name seems concentrated in Middlesex and Cheshire.

[suffolk*sue]

Pallots marriage index has the following

Thomas Hawar = bachelor
Sarah Arundell - spinster

St. Martin Vintry, London = 1825

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I hope you don't mind that I am linking this to your earlier thread so people can see what's already been found,

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,287091.msg1701176.html#msg1701176


As to Amelia Sophia HAWAR, I wonder if this could be her on the IGI

Amelia Sophia HARWAR
Christening:  31 MAR 1822   Christ Church, Southwark, London
Father:  Thomas HARWAR
Mother:  Sarah  

and a brother,

Jeffery HARWAR
Birth:  22 MAR 1824
Christening:  18 JUL 1824   Saint Dunstan In The West, London
Father:  Thomas HARWAR
Mother:  Sarah  


and in 1841,


1841  HO107/686/19  f.11  p.16  St Clement Danes, Middlesex
Serles Place

Thomas HARWAR      40    Law Writer    
Amelia                   15
Jeffery                  15
Thomas                  6
John                     30    Law Writer       All born in County except John


Oops, Sue got there first


Regards
Daisy

[suffolk*sue]

 

[suffolk*sue]

The above family lost some children young.


Charles Lees HARWAR
Date of burial: 13 March 1831
Place of burial: St Dunstan In The West
Age at death: 1 Year 4 Months
Address at death: Serle's Place (In Fetter Lane)

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 Henrietta Augusta  HARWAR
Date of burial: 29 April 1838
Place of burial: St Dunstan In The West
Age at death: 1 Year
Address at death: Serle's Place (In Fetter Lane)


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Jane Eliza  HARWAR
Date of burial: 31 October 1834
Place of burial: St Dunstan In The West
Age at death: 2 Years 1 Month
Address at death: Serle's Place (In Fetter Lane)


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Susannah HARWAR
Date of burial: 28 May 1826
Place of burial: St Dunstan In The West
Age at death: 1 Year 4 Months
Address at death: Searle's Place

[wren]

Hi Sue and Daisy,
Wow! Thank you for your kindness. I'll follow this lot up now. Boy if they lost all of these children it must have been devastating. I know infant mortality was huge but they look like they spent a great deal of time at the cemetery.
Just one last question was a law writer someone who recorded the law.
Sorry I'm just an Aussie who has little understanding of English occupation terminology.
Thanks again Wren.