Vira Smith

[Danuella]

Hiya,i'm trying to help my cousin trace her romany roots and althugh i've been doing it for nearly a year i have barely anything and just dont know where else to look!!
Heres what ihave
Vira Smith father Amos smith married Thomas Smith father Thomas smith in 1912 ashbourne
I also have a found Vira and Thomas childrens birth
I cant find anything else on Vira anywhere all i know is what her grandaughter remembers which isnt much and no else knows anything!!
oh and she was 22 at the time of her marriage,all were hawkers.
I can find no trace of vira or her fatehr amos on any census and no birth record for her.
Any advice on where to go from here wold be fantastic
Thanks

[Nutty1966]

Hi and welcome to roots

Can you tell us where Vira was actually born, as I would hope she may be on the 1901 census, and there is a few with same name. 

Any more information would be great

Jane

[Danuella]

Hiya Jane thanks so much for the reply,unfortunatly i havent got a clue where she was born,all i have is what i've posted which isnt much at all.I have looked at 1901 and 1891 census but none of them seem to fit,apparantly she had a sister and some brothers but there seems to have been some split in the family as no one seems to know anything at all,even viras daughter in law,which i found surprising but apparantly she never mentioned her family.
Sorry  i havent got anything else.
Warmes wishes

[Nutty1966]

Hmmm a puzzle, you say married in Ashford, is that the one in Kent??  Do you have the marriage certificate, it may give a clue with the witnesses of the marriage maybe a brother or sister    well you can hope eh!!!  Maybe you could a wild card and look for them without using the surname, I will keep looking - maybe tomorrow before I can post again


Jane

[Danuella]

hi Jane yes i do have the marriage cert
they married jun 24 1912 in ashbourne derby,sorry she was 24 thomas was 28 and the witnesses were isaac holland and another holland looks like barnet? holland
,they lived old hill ashbourne

[Nutty1966]

Argh sorry Ashford dear me find my specs lol will look again

J

[Danuella]

lol,oh also apparnatly one of their daughters married a henry holland who was her cousin??
Danni

[osprey]

How about this marriage, possibly the parents of said cousin ?

Henry Holland sept qtr 1885 Rotherham vol 9c pg 717 with Vira Smith on the same page

[deb usa]

Hi everyone

i Have just found these families..

1901
Hartington, Ashbourne Derby
TENTS
Amos SMITH head mar 29 travelling cutlery grinder b Leics, morning??
Annie Jane wive 19 b newcastle , Tyne
Amos son 9 b Staffs, Barleston
Micheal son 1 b Derby Mercaston

next to them in Tents;
MacKenzie HOLLAND head mar 50 cutlery grinder b Leics. Shasfold?
Annie Maria wife 46 b Leics, melton Mowbray
Thomas 13 son b derby.
Spizella 9 dau b warwick, Coventry
John 6 b Notts

they seem to be in the right place ...

will look for more

deb