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Re: Matthew McGill Telfor Waugh ?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 03 January 09 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Mothers name on the birth cert is Williamina Telfer.  I don't have McGill anywhere else in my tree so I am guessing McGill could have been his fathers surname.  Williamina's father was Matthew Telfer so that is probably where his first name came from.

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Re: Matthew McGill Telfor Waugh ?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 03 January 09 12:46 GMT (UK) »
Did you check the 1901 census for any McGill's in the area. What age was the mother at the birth.

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Re: Matthew McGill Telfor Waugh ?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 03 January 09 12:53 GMT (UK) »
His mother was around 17 when he was born, I've never been able to find her birth on Scotlands People.  Have tried in the past to find McGills in the area but I think there were quite a few.  My guess is Matthew may have been taken off her when he was a baby as she was quite young and unmarried.  Will have another look at the Census for McGill in the St Mungo area, I have his mother in 1881, 1891 and 1901.

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Re: Matthew McGill Telfor Waugh ?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 03 January 09 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Where does the 1881 census say she was born?


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Re: Matthew McGill Telfor Waugh ?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 03 January 09 13:00 GMT (UK) »
1881 states she was born St Mungo, Dumfries, living at Threewellbrae, Dumfries
1891 states born Hoddam, Dumfries, living at Brocklerigg Cottage, St Mungo
1901 states born Lockerbie, living at 7 Solway Street, Annan

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Re: Matthew McGill Telfor Waugh ?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 03 January 09 13:15 GMT (UK) »
The clue is on  the 1881 - Kennedy (son in law - i.e. step son)

She's registered as Williamina Rogerson or Kennedy (illegitimate) . Mother Jane Rogerson (widow of William Kennedy ?drainer who died 24 October 1874)

Born 24 April 1879 Threewellbrae, Hoddom


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Re: Matthew McGill Telfor Waugh ?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 03 January 09 13:35 GMT (UK) »
The clue is on  the 1881 - Kennedy (son in law - i.e. step son)

She's registered as Williamina Kennedy (illegitimate) . Mother Jane Rogerson (widow of William Kennedy ?drainer who died 24 October 1874)

Born 24 April 1879 Threewellbrae, Hoddom


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Gadget got there 4 mins before me !!

On her 1906 marriage register entry Williamina's mother is shown as Jane ROGERSON or KENNEDY, which is why she is registered in 1879 under those surnames instead of TELFER/TELFORD !, and presumably, shown as Williamina R K TELFORD in 1906.

No indication in 1879 of her father's name.  I'd read her mother's deceased husband's occupation as 'Drainer', - the old style Scots capital 'D' can sometimes appear to be lower case in modern terms.


Coming forward to wee Matthew's 1897 birth this is several decades prior to the introduction in Scotland of a formal legal process of adoption; but it's worth a look at local institutions of the era and whether any records are extant.

Failing any positive outcome from such an institutional research, it's near certain that there would be a family link in terms of the adoption, even if that link only involves close neighbors or friends, possibly with a kirk connection.

As regards his father's age, there was many a young lass seduced by an older man, so any search for a McGILL candidate should take that into account, however likely it is that the father was someone close to Williamina's age.

While the use of the father's surname as a middle name in such a situation was quite usual, it might also be a family surname, or the surname or someone else connected with the birth, such as a minister, doctor, or midwife ........

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Re: Matthew McGill Telfor Waugh ?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 03 January 09 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks to all of you who have posted replies, you have been a great help.  I think I'll have to keep searching the Census for a local McGill and hope one may be the right father.

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Re: Matthew McGill Telfor Waugh ?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 03 January 09 14:03 GMT (UK) »
There are a few possibles on the 1891 and 1901 but there's no real way of telling is there  :-\

I have a similar problem with my Grandfather  :(

I suppose it's one less line to search  :)



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