TREWARTHA Baptism Lookup please

[Suziesmith37]

Hi Kilmartin


Billy Bray's parents were William Bray and Ann Trewartha married
27 Jan 1794.

http://www.familytreecircles.com/journal_12246.html

might provide a few other points of reference.

Su

[krisesjoint]

Sounds like you have some great paperwork there kilmartin 

You must have thought all your Christmases had come at once when it all arrived. The will is wonderful to clarify who William was for you. You couldn't ask for more.

The witnesses don't help but we are convinced of who they are now anyway. Occ of servant I certainly wouldn't have expected - you just never know do you. (Since it is Lavinia we know it must be right) Was he literate? Mariner sounds OK. Guess the girls didn't marry as well as their brother did. He must have got the bulk of his fathers estate.

I was quite convinced it was Billy Bray's line the moment I spotted that Crantock baptism Su. Another interesting character there. 

We also have a SA Artist who is a part of the Trenerry Butcher family - Horace Hurtle TRENERRY b 5 Dec 1899 Adelaide

We have come a long way with this thread. Certainly a memorable one

Kris 

[kilmartin]

Hi Kris,

Certainly a great thread.  All were literate - William trewartha senior and Jane Martyn had very neat precise writing - the witness I could not work out yesterday was Eliza Hiscutt. The other thing is that the Trewarthas were resident at Tregembo when Lavinia was christened at St Hilary and living at Penryn when Mary was christened at St Gluvias.

I was not sure of Billy Bray as what I have read emphasises the family were illiterate - I have found that James Trewartha and Mary Goldsworthy were literate. I guess we would expect their daughter Ann Trewartha (who married William Bray) to have been able to write her name at least - but I have not checked this. Certainly a baptism in Crantock on the same day as the Trewartha baptism is persuading though.

I could not see the Trenerry tree so missed Horace Hurtle Trenerry.
Kilmartin

[JPSmith]

Hi, kilmartin,
I am new to this forum, but I too am looking to information on William Trewartha who married an Elisabeth Hitchins on 2/12/1823, St. Clements, Cornwall.
My info. so far has them having the following children:
Mary Jane, chr. 20/4/1825, St. Gluvias; Martha chr. 7/9/1828, St. Blazey; Susannah chr. 7/9/1828, St. Blazey; Mary Anne chr. 7/9/1798, St. Blazey; William chr. 19/10/1831, St. Blazey; James chr. 22/7/1832, Tynardreath; Lavinia chr. 13/10/1833, St. Hilary.  My info. also has Mary Jane (1825) having one child, William T. b. 9/9/1846, Cornwall, d. 24/12/1918, Moonta, South Australia, m. 25/12/1873, Moonta, Sarah Quintrell, b. 17/1/1853, Cornwall,d. 19/7/1910, Moonta, SA.
I am still in some doubt about this info. being my line, as other historians have my William T. (1846) associated with another line and his birth date being 1849.
However, the info. above might be of some help to you,
Regards JPSmith.

[krisesjoint]

Hi,

A big welcome to RootsChat and the Cornwall Board 

At the time of Williams marriage in SA he was described as

William TREWARTHA single age 36 father William Benbow Henry Trewartha = Sarah QUINTRELL age MI father John Quintrell 25 Dec 1873 Wesleyan Church Yelta Dist Dal 97 866.

I don't have deaths after 1916 to see what his age is listed as. If you don't have it, please ask on the Emigrants to Australia Board. Someone will be able to help.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,165.0.html

This marriage entry suggests he was born about 1836. The birth of his 12 children do not list a middle name for William. There are other Trewartha's in the area at this time who married and had children. All appear to be the children of Elisha Trewartha who married Elizabeth Moyle in Gwennap 12 Apr 1834 (Children born Cornwall and SA) This family arrived in 1847 in case they connect.

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1847Rajah.htm

Cheers Kris 

[JPSmith]

Hi, Kris,
Thanks for your reply.
I have the following info. on William Trewartha - died 24/12/1918, at Moonta, buried in Moonta Cemetery 26/12/1918, Cemetery records show 72years of age, which would bring his birth date back to 1846.
However, it would appear that perhaps his father could have been William Henry Benbow T., but will do more checking before I am convinced.
Thanks again,
JPSmith.

[krisesjoint]

Hi JP,

Yes I found the burial after I posted. Does the death also state 72? big difference there. One of two things spring to mind - firstly at death, age is provided from someone else and these ages may be horribly incorrect - at marriage he provided the information on the cert himself, so to my mind would most likely be correct, of course one would need to see the cert to be sure his age is listed as 36 and has not been transcribed incorrectly. I cannot find any mention of a William Benbow Henry Trewartha in Cornwall unfortunately. Do you have any other documentation on William such as immigration etc which may provide further clues as to his age and parentage?

I do suggest you have a good read of this thread while you wait for kilmartin, I think you will see all these baptisms you mention were not to the same William and Elizabeth Trewartha.

Cheers Kris 

[JPSmith]

Hi, Kris,
I have been looking at the entries on this site - there is a William Henry Benbow T. b. 1849, Gwennap ( son of John T. and Mary Ann Trestail Benbow), who a lot of historians have connected into and have him marrying Sarah Quintrell.    However, my William T. must have given the info. that his father was William Benbow Henry T. on his marriage certificate.    Perhaps he was trying to mislead people, I don't know.   Have found the above info. on the Paltridge Perry Project (they are researching the Benbow's).
Thanks for the info, so far,
Regards, JPSmith.

[krisesjoint]

Hi JP,

Yes I did see that a John T had married Mary Ann Trestrail Benbow but could see the son could not have been the father of your John as he was born about the same time as John (or some time later) Though the Trewartha Benbow connection seemed interesting. The plot thickens.

Do you have or have you seen the actual marriage cert? If not I think you do need it to be sure. Maybe the transcript is wrong. Funny he would give his fathers name as William Benbow Henry if it was in fact his own name and his father was John. 

What about immigration. Do you have that? Wondering if who he arrived with etc and his age may help..........Cheers Kris