Bacchus 1851 please

[ard]

What I have is this:
1841 census
BACCHUS ISAAC 35 Yorks E R - Hull
BACCHUS ANN 35 Yorks E R - Hull
BACCHUS WILLIAM 8 Yorks E R - Hull 
BACCHUS SARAH 4 Yorks E R - Hull
BACCHUS MARIA 1 Yorks E R - Hull

I'm not sure the 1841 census has too much more info but if it does (such as occupation/address), yes please ...
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[deeiluka]

Only additions I can add for you are Kingston upon Hull, Aftass or Abtass Alley as the residence, and mariner as the occupation of Isaac.

Glad to have been of help.

.....dee

[ard]

Mariner, that's intersting.

Well that's a pretty complete picture ; that is, snapshots at 10 yr intervals    without too many mysteries!

Merry Spring - at least it was kind of spring like for us today 
It will be here yet!
ard

[BushInn1746]

Here's 1861......

RG9/ 3589/ 104/ 8
Hull, Yorkshire, England
12 High St

Isaac Bacchus 59  head Grocer, Post Office Messenger
Ann Bacchus 56  wife
Maria Bacchus 21 Daur Milliner
Mary Bacchus 16 Daur Home Servant
Frederick Bacchus 14 Son Cork Cutter’s App
Ashley Holt 30 Boarder Grocer’s Assistant

Ann born Selby, others born Hull
Ashley Holt born Barton, Lincolnshire


1871 coming up when I have typed it out..... 

.....dee

Interesting, your mention of the surname Bacchus and the Wife born Selby, Yorkshire.

Added:
Various, Mariners, born at, or with their abode Selby, are listed in the Trinity House Hull, Muster Rolls.
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At Selby, Yorkshire, there was a Public House, called the Bacchus & Barrel, Micklegate, Selby. In 1822 Samuel Coates was likely the Publican / Licensee of the Bacchus and Barrel, Selby.

Because in the Will of Elizabeth Hawdon of Selby, Yorkshire, Proved 1825 (written June 1822 and online f m p ) she mentions the Public House called the Bacchus and Barrel, Micklegate, Selby, (saying in Micklegate otherwise called Wide Street, Selby), now in the Tenure of Samuel Coates.

The Will of Eliz Hawdon also mentions a dwelling house and workshop adjoining the Pub occupied by Henry Atkinson, [possibly the Tinman, who married Ashton Bacon, at Selby, in 1791] and another dwelling house behind the Pub, occupied by Charles Turner.

Mark

Added: this newspaper snippet appeared at bottom of Marriages search ...

Hull News, 8 July 1865
Hull, July 3rd, Mr Wm Gofton, of Riverhead, Driffield, to Maria Townsley, eldest surviving daughter of Mr Isaac Bacchus, Grocer, Hull.

The name Isaac Bacchus appears in a few Yorkshire newspapers.

[ard]

MAJOR EDIT
(For some reason I mistook Selby as Ann's maiden name (which didn't fit with my records) rather than the place of birth (which does) so I have removed that part)

It's been a good while since my initial post and I'm a little confused about the subsequent dates of the entries but thank you dee for the 1861 census details - I'm not sure that I had noted them.

I have that Isaac Bacchus married Ann Townsley in 1832 and that they had six children: William, Sarah Ann, Maria Townsley, Mary Elizabeth, Frederick Mamby and Joseph.

Maria Townsley Bacchus married William Grofton in 1865 and had at least 6 children. She was Isaac's eldest surviving daughter (per the marriage announcement - thanks for that Mark) but not the only daughter.

Mary Elizabeth Bacchus married my great-great grandfather, German born Ludwig Hoffman, his third wife. They first emigrated to Montreal, Quebec, Canada where their last child was born but later went to South Africa, where both Ludwig and Mary Elizabeth died in their senior years.

Cheers

[ard]

Mark, thanks for your information!
Really interesting about the public house called Bacchus & Barrel in Micklegate, Selby.

From what I have been able to find, Selby is in North Yorkshire (being from across the pond, I'm not at all familiar with the intricacies of Yorkshire ridings).

While, the census information has Isaac Bacchus being born in Hull (East Riding for anyone not familiar), it doesn't mean that his family ties do not extend to Selby. Something to look into, anyway!

Nevertheless, it appears that Isaac was baptized June 15, 1803 (Holy Trinity, Hull) son of William and Mary Bacchus and that he had at least two siblings, Mary (1793) and William (1801). I have no more information on the siblings but it may even be that William was responsible for the pub in Selby, although this doesn't really fit the early dates associated with the pub being in the hands of Samuel coats. I have no idea how common the Bacchus (with its various spellings) surname was in Yorkshire.

Cheers
 

[BushInn1746]

Samuel Coates was only confirmed as occupying at the time Elizabeth Hawdon's Will was written (in 1822). Some pubs changed Publicans often.

Selby, Yorkshire, is in the West Riding, but some records and administration come under the North Riding County and Archives.

Some Selby, Yorkshire, records are in the East Riding Archives and other Archives at Hull; Leeds and elsewhere.

Bacchus is not a common surname in England & Wales.
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

[ard]

(So much for Wikipedia!) Thanks again for clearing some of that up for me.

I was thinking more of Bacchus in the pub's name as a family connection to Selby. I expect that the names endured longer than the publicans!