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Bacchus 1851 please
« on: Sunday 24 February 08 03:33 GMT (UK) »
Could someone please look up the following family for  me, please (our libraries are on strike!)
I think they are all of one family.
What I'd like to know especially is where the parents were born and if the age for Joseph is really 14 and not 1...
and any other details available are always welcomed!

1851 census
BACCHUS ISAAC 49 Hull, Humber
BACCHUS ANN 46 Hull, Humber
BACCHUS JOSEPH 14 Hull, Humber 
BACCHUS MARIA 10 Hull, Humber
BACCHUS MARY 6 Hull, Humber
BACCHUS FREDERICK 4 Hull, Humber

Much thanks.
ard
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Re: Bacchus 1851 please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 February 08 03:41 GMT (UK) »
Hope this helps......

1851

HO107/2362/ 477/ 3
Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England
12 High St

Isaac Bacchus 49  Head Post Office Messenger
Ann Bacchus 46  Wife
Maria Bacchus 10  Daur
Mary Bacchus 6 Daur
Frederick Bacchus 4 Son
Joseph Bacchus 1/4 Son

All born Hull.

And the 1/4 alongside Joseph is as it is on the image......which would explain why someone may have read it as 14.

.....dee   
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Bacchus 1851 please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 February 08 03:57 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that is helpful, Dee, thank you. I knew there was a Joseph born in 1851 so he was maybe 1/4 of a year? At first I thought there might have been two Josephs but it just wasn't making sense!

Does anyone know if Selby is part of Hull district? In the 1881 census record, that is where Ann was recorded as being from (Both Isaac and Ann are in the 61 and 71 census but I don't have the details for them either.)

Cheers,
ard
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Re: Bacchus 1851 please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 February 08 04:04 GMT (UK) »
Would you like the details for 1861 and 1871, ard?

.....dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Bacchus 1851 please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 February 08 04:14 GMT (UK) »
If it wouldn't be too much trouble... This is what I have; if there is additional info, I would welcome it (maybe address if it's there too?)

1861 census
BACCHUS ISAAC 59 Hull, St Mary 
BACCHUS ANN 56 Hull, St Mary
BACCHUS MARIA 21 Hull, St Mary
BACCHUS MARY 16 Hull, St Mary
BACCHUS FREDERICK 14 Hull, St Mary

1871 census
BACCHUS ISAAC 69 Sculcoates, Cottingham
BACCHUS ANN 68 Sculcoates, Cottingham 


Thank you  :)

ard
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Re: Bacchus 1851 please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 February 08 04:15 GMT (UK) »
Here's 1861......

RG9/ 3589/ 104/ 8
Hull, Yorkshire, England
12 High St

Isaac Bacchus 59  head Grocer, Post Office Messenger
Ann Bacchus 56  wife
Maria Bacchus 21 Daur Milliner
Mary Bacchus 16 Daur Home Servant
Frederick Bacchus 14 Son Cork Cutter’s App
Ashley Holt 30 Boarder Grocer’s Assistant

Ann born Selby, others born Hull
Ashley Holt born Barton, Lincolnshire


1871 coming up when I have typed it out.....  :D

.....dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Bacchus 1851 please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 February 08 04:22 GMT (UK) »
RG10/ 4774/ 10/ 16

Cottingham, Yorkshire, England
Grocer Shop

Isaac Bacchus 69  head Grocer and Tea Dealer
Ann Bacchus 66  wife
Ashley Holt 41 Lodger Dock Labourer
George Dixon 35 Lodger Married Labourer

Birth places for Isaac, Ann & Ashley Holt the same as in 1861. George Dixon was born Newland, Yorkshire.

……dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Bacchus 1851 please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 February 08 04:29 GMT (UK) »

Details do help - for one, it confirms that the Frederick Bacchus cork cutter who was a convict in 1881 was of this family!


Thanks for looking and copying, I appreciate it!

ard


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Re: Bacchus 1851 please
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 February 08 04:34 GMT (UK) »
Do you want the family in 1841....because I have found them......

....dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk