thos and mary stevenson in standlake

[DebbieG]

Hi - I have just got chance to have a bit of a look at this.  I checked the Appleton transcripts to see what info there was on that marriage entry - it gives

marriage May 16th 1750
Thomas Simpson of Buckland to Mary Climson wid

So this is pretty definitly the marriage of the Buckland couple,  interesting that Mary was a widow,  there are no other Climson/Clemson entries in the Appleton registers.

I then checked the baptisms in Buckland for Thomas & Mary's family and found

1750 James s/o Thomas & Mary Simpson
1752 William s/o Thomas & Mary Stimpson
1761 Elizabeth d/o Thomas & Mary Stimpson
1763 William s/o Thomas & Mary Stimpson

I am sure you have seen these and noticed the gap, 52 - 61  looking through the baptisms year by year I found

1758 Robert s/o Thomas & Mary Stevenson

Now there are no other Stevenson entries in the Buckland registers at all at this time,  and with the names of the parents being the same and it fitting neatly in the gap,  and bearing in mind your comments about the pronunciation of the name  I still think that  this is a very good candidate for the baptism of 'your'  Robert,  I am not sure why you have discounted it quite so quickly? 


Debbie

[woozle]

Hi Debbie.
Thanks for hunting for me. Still here looking for expletive Robert.
In short, to answer your question about discounting Robert, exasperation. As Carmela found too there is an unfortunate Thomas and Mary Stevenson marriage in Buckland in 1747(?) which doesn't come up normally, but it is definitely there. If they hadn't been there then i would have accepted it immediately but they are there albeit only for the wedding. Hence my reason for searching for children of Thomas and Mary Stevenson. If I found other children, or any children born to them elsewhere it might put Robert back in the frame, especially if they had a child, say in 1757/8/9.
It seems strange that they marry in 1747 and disappear for 11 years and come back to Buckland and have just one son. Thomas Stevenson was from Standlake but we've discovered  that they weren't there.
Carmela made an interesting point though which i have been chewing over most of the day, that Stevenson was perhaps pronounced Stimpson. As a result I though just because I'm hard headed, to try to find the incumbents/parish clerks for the period to see if coincidentally at the end of the seventeen fifties the incumbent changes for a less literate one. You never know.
I'm really clutching at straws at the mo as I can't find my Robert's death. Jamaja  has also found a connection to his wife Martha Buckingham and she can't find his death either.
In the light of this, have you any ideas? ANY, even the most outrageous would be very welcome. Perhaps between you and Carmela (fresh blood as it were) something will emerge to trigger a new path. Here's hoping.
Thanks Debbie
Woozle

[DebbieG]

Hi

According to my transcripts (OFHS)  that marriage was for a Thomas Stephens (not Stephenson) of Standlake,  and looking at Standlake registers I can see a baptism
1756 John s/o Thomas & Mary Stephens  so it looks as though Stephens is correct,  though there are also baptisms around that time for children of Thomas & Elizabeth Stephens which is a bit confusing

I will mull it over a bit more and see if I can come up with anything else

Debbie

[woozle]

Thanks Debbie.
What a mess! Seriously thinking about changing my name by deed poll and getting a whole new set of findable ancestors.
Cheers
Woozle

[Carmela]

Hi Woozle,
Sorry I had to disappear for a while, as real life has been interfering with my genealogical pursuits. I have now looked through my files and nothing there fits with your people. I have also reviewed the posts on here and can see no obvious (or not so obvious) solution to your problem.
Before I go any further, I should point out that the second
Buckland marriage that I found, suggests that there was no
Thomas Stevenson marriage (except perhaps in the wishful thinking of who ever submitted that entry to the IGI). In the more trustworthy extracted entry, the name is Stephens, not
Stevenson. There were people named Stephens/Stevens in
nearby villages and that Thomas probably belonged to one of those families. So, I would dismiss the Buckland marriage and any connection to Standlake and concentrate on the Stimpsons/Simpsons.
The parish register entries found by Debbie indicate that the vicar or clerk did confuse Stimpson and Simpson, so perhaps
Stevenson was yet another mistake. I think it is likely that your Robert was a child of Thomas and Mary Simpson or Stimpson, born in that 10 year gap. The only problem is , how on earth do go about proving it ? A will would be nice.
You might check to see if Thomas Stimpson or Simpson did leave a will. I don't know what he did for a living, but even
small tradesmen or craftsmen sometimes made wills. It's worth looking.
I am going to send you a PM with contact details for a most helpful person, who is doing a small one-name-study of the names Stevenson, Stimpson, Stimsom, Simpson, et. al. in Berks/Oxon. I hope he can help you.

Regards,
Carmela

[woozle]

Thanks Carmela
I haven't been on for a while either.
We've been hammering away at PRs with no luck so maybe expansion wouldn't go amiss.
Thanks for your help.