Mary Ann LEARY, c. 1835

[deb usa]

eeekkkk MY Mistake .... 

Ezekiel POLLARD = Elizabeth SAILSBURY NOT SPICER ... Thats what happens when everything is scribbled down ...sorry 

deb 

Hi one more thing before i pop out 

I found this on IGI ....I wonder if this is her ...

Elizabeth SALISBURY
31 Aug 1761
St Thomas the Apostle
parents; John Salisbury and Jane

the surname has many variations ...Salesbury/ Salsbury/ Sailsbury etc

will look further

deb

[Bill749]

Having seen a copy of the census entry, I have to agree that her occupation is almost certainly Sextoness.

I have never come across this before - I can't imagine that a woman would have been given the job of grave-digging though - probably just a sort of care-taker for the church.  I had a picture in my mind of a large, muscular woman wielding a shovel! 

Bill

[Bill749]

Elizabeth SALISBURY
31 Aug 1761
St Thomas the Apostle
parents; John Salisbury and Jane

Unfortunately, unless one of the parties was a minor, we don't get fathers' names on marriage entries before civil registration in April 1837, so it is difficult to be sure.

We might be lucky and get witness names that would suggest a possible parentage if we had the original registers to look at - I think I will have to plan a few days in Devon this summer!

I've already booked a trip to Norfolk to search for further evidence of great grandad's family but, looking at the surname map mentioned on another thread, I've found that SNELL was also aparently a Devonshire name!

Looks like I might have some west-country blood in me after all my 'andsome!   

Bill

[deb usa]

Morning Bill  

It does seem to be rather a strange occupation .... If she was just a caretaker of some sorts surely she would not have said 'sextoness' .  it also seems like they did not need the money as her husband is still a Baker and the older children are working. I wonder if it was her family's occupation ....

I know Louisa Gullice is not your direct line ...but I think it may be interesting to find out .

Would you still like the details of Henry (1804) , his other brothers ...ie Daniel and John?

deb

Ps ... I was born in Devon and my dad was born in Cornwall ...that's exactly how he speaks ...'ello me 'andsome  or 'ello me maid   LOL

[Bill749]

How-do Deb

Yes please - I always like to follow up siblings - you never know where they might lead.

My late mother-in-law's family were originally from Cornwall - via Co. Durham, so she didn't have a west-country accent; she was born in Washington (Co. Durham, not DC!  ).

Do you still have a Devonshire accent, or are you now an all-American girl?

Bill

[Bill749]

I don't think money would have been much of a consideration - a sexton would get paid a shilling or two for digging graves, and a few coppers for ringing the bells at a wedding but, other than that, I think it was pretty much unpaid!

The main tasks would have been preparing for the service, seeing to the lighting of the church, cleaning, arranging for repairs, obtaining supplies (candles, etc.) and generally looking after the maintenance of the fabric of the church.  This could easily be handled by a woman, as it did not involve any heavy work.  A local labourer could have been employed to dig graves as and when required.

Bill

[deb usa]

Hi Bill

Thought I would get busy with Daniel Leary b c 1801 , b/o Henry

1841
St Mary Major,Exeter
preston rd
Daniel LEARY 41 ag lab Y
Hannah Leary 40 N
Mary 17 Y
William 13 Y
Hannah 11 Y
Sarah 2 Y

1851
St Lawrence , Exeter
Daniel LEARY head 50 Blacksmith journeyman b Exeter
Hannah Leary wife 50 laundress b London
William son unm 25 baker's jouneyman b Exeter
George son 9 b Exeter
Charlotte dau 6 b Exeter

1861
St Lawrence
Gidleys buildings
castle street
Daniel LEARY head mar 60 Smith's labourer b exeter
Hannah wife 59 charwoman b London
George son 18 boot closer
Maria gr dau 8 b Exeter

cannot find Danile's marriage to Hannah ..will look further

deb 

[Bill749]

Oh Boy!

This looks like a job for tomorrow - it's time I was in bed! (00:45)

Thanks Deb

[S Kirkham]

Hi

I have the Leary family in my adoptive dad’s tree.  I have photos somewhere of Henry Rheinlander.  I’ve visited Exeter and visited some of the Churches where the Leary’s were baptised.   I have a READ family tree on Ancestry.  My name on there is sandrakirkham1.   Charlotte Leary was my grandmother and I have photos of her too.

Would love to hear from you if you are interested. 

Sandra