marriages in Manchester Cathedral in 1840's

[veebareeba]

Does anyone have access to marriage records in Mcr Cathedral or is it possible to write off for details?  Have discovered that my gt gt gparents were married in Mcr Cathedral on 25th December 1847 - Thomas Sweeney and Ann Corcoran.  They were Irish Catholics as far as I know.
Does anyone know if it was usual for other denominations to be married in a C of E church in those days?  Also, I suspect that Ann was unsure of her age on the 1871 census or was underage at her marriage ....  The thick plottons!

Any advice will be very much appreciated.
Veebareeba

[Patk]

It was quite usual for Catholics to be married in Manchester Cathedral in those days and these were recognised by the Established Church.
Also, I think it became quite the fashionable thing to do in early Manchester.
A marriage certificate would give you the Father's name of the bride and groom. The reference for this could be listed on the Lancashire Births, Marriages and Deaths, and may confirm for you the bride's name, unlike FBDM site where you have a choice!
Hope this helps,
Patk

[Marj]

The record for Manchester Cathedral are held at the Manchester Central Library,
http:// www.manchester.gov.uk/libraries 

I have seen messages posted that the library will look for your request, but not sure if that now applies. as they were inundated with requests.

I have also seen messages for the Library look ups on the
Manchester forum page at.  http://genforum.genealogy.com


Hope this helps

Regards Marj

[Biko]

It was quite usual for Catholics to be married in Manchester Cathedral in those days and these were recognized by the Established Church.
Also, I think it became quite the fashionable thing to do in early Manchester.
A marriage certificate would give you the Father's name of the bride and groom. The reference for this could be listed on the Lancashire Births, Marriages and Deaths, and may confirm for you the bride's name, unlike FBDM site where you have a choice!
Hope this helps,
Patk

God I love this site, always learning stuff from it without even looking for any particular info.
 
I was assured by my mother that her mothers line were catholic and then I found that gggrandparents had been married at cathedral and thought  she was definitely wrong. Convinced both of us that they must have come to Catholicism through marriage. It would seem that getting married in Manchester Cathedral does not necessarily mean they were C of E.

[AudBailey]

Will look this marriage up for you as I am going to Manchester Library next Monday.
 
Audrey

[Charlieralph]

You will find 18 marriages for Sweeney at Manchester Cathedral between 1846 and 1850 also a number of Christenings. Most Irish Sweeneys came in via Liverpool
and you will find a lot more being married / Christened at Liverpool Cathedral

[veebareeba]

Thanks so much to all of you for the information.    Very interesting stuff!   Thanks for the tips.  I will keep trying the Lancs BMD site to see if they have added my family yet.

Audrey, that would be fantastic if you could look up this marriage for me.   As I mentioned, I would be particularly interested in the ages of the wedding party!!  And I know from past experience that witnesses etc can often provide another link to the family.  Can't wait to hear from you.

Yes, this is a brilliant site - my husband has even become interested in tracing his Yorkshire roots because of it.

A question for Charlieralph - how did you find this info on the Sweeney's?  Sounds very promising.

Veebareeba

[AudBailey]

Details of the marriage after banns on 25/12/1847

Thomas Sweeney - minor - bachelor - sawyer - lived Newton - father - Michael Sweeney - labourer

Ann Corcoran - minor - spinster - lived Newton - father John Corcoran - labourer

Thomas signed his name/Ann marked with a cross
WitnessesThomas Durkin/ Jane Stretton
Hope this helps.

My own ggg grandparents married here in 1840 and I was unable to find any baptisms until I realised they were catholic. I found them at St Pats.
Good luck
Audrey

[veebareeba]

Audrey thank you so very much!

As I suspected Thomas and Ann were "minors" and the extra information is fantastic - takes me back another generation.  Do you know just how "minor" you can be to get married?  Before I found this site I was at a dead end with the Sweeney family after a few fruitless visits to Salford and Manchester records offices.  So thank you once again. 

I visited St Patricks's Livesey St last time I was in Mcr as Tom and Ann's son (also Thomas) was married there in 1883, and was a bit disappointed to find the church had been rebuilt since those days.  Time marches on of course.

Thanks once again and best wishes with your research.

Veronica