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Re: marriages in Manchester Cathedral in 1840's
« Reply #81 on: Saturday 02 July 05 20:41 BST (UK) »
Just a little information for all of you to confirm that prior to a certain date two fees were due if you married at another church within the parish of M/c cath.
this is from the archivist at Manchester;
 

The
ancient Parish of Manchester was very large, covering all the outlying
townships. The Collegiate Church - later the Cathedral - owned the rights to
fees for all marriages within the Parish. If people chose to marry in their
local church, then a fee would be payable both to the church and to the
Collegiate Church, hence most people cut out the middle-man and came direct to
the Collegiate Church, from miles around. This is how Joshua Brookes came to be
the most prolific baptiser, marrier, and burier in the Country.
This caused great unrest, as you can imagine, and by 1850, a Rectory Division
Bill was passed through Parliament following a large petition from the
Parishioners of Manchester. This ordered the dividing of the ancient parish
into smaller parishes, leaving the Cathedral with the Residual Parish - being
just the area around it. Double fees were still payable until 1878, however, as
the 1850 Bill allowed for the current holders of the Clerkships to retire before
removing their income.There are numerous pamphlets and small books published around 1850 arguing forand against the Rectory Division Bill, eg. Mr Turner's letters to the Bishop,
published in 1850 by James Ridgway, Piccadilly, London, and Simms & Dinham in
Manchester. There is a later one, however, published around 1886, looking back
on the arguments which were still continuing. This booklet publishes the Bill
in full, with notes saying how the Bill was being abused by the Cathedral. I
was reading this only the other day at Chetham's Library, and I will email you
again tomorrow with a reference for it.

Yours sincerely,

Christopher Hunwick

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Re: marriages in Manchester Cathedral in 1840's
« Reply #82 on: Saturday 02 July 05 21:15 BST (UK) »
dear aud,
yes i do believe they are at manchester cath, thankyou so very much for doing the lookups.

thanks
kate lloyd
australia.

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Re: marriages in Manchester Cathedral in 1840's
« Reply #83 on: Sunday 03 July 05 05:31 BST (UK) »
Dear Audrey

Would really appreciate a look in Manchester Cathedral, whenever you go and have some free time, as I see you do have many requests, and I do not mind waiting. It is very kind of you, as so much additional information can be acquired from the witnesses etc.

10 November 1845 William Bird and Harriet Faulkner Manchester Cathedral

also:THOMAS INGHAM 
   Spouse:  JANE BEBBINGTON  Family
  Marriage:  14 NOV 1858   Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire,

I know Jane's parents, but I am hoping to confirm Thomas' father, and any witnesses if that is possible.
Thank you very much for all the work you are doing, and if it has become too much I will understand.
Pat
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Re: marriages in Manchester Cathedral in 1840's
« Reply #84 on: Monday 04 July 05 22:07 BST (UK) »
Kate
Here are the details you wanted
M/c Cathedral after banns on 1/8/1847

James Chantler - full age - bachelor - miller - 38 John St - father Thomas - miller
Alice Jackson - full age - spinster - 6 Thomas St - John - packer
James literate/Alice not
Witnesses John Whitehead & Elizabeth Davies (both literate.

M/c Cathedral after banns on 24/12/1848

John Chantler - 21 - bachelor - miller - 34 John St - father Thomas - miller
Mary Spencer - 21 - spinster - 14 Peter St - father William - labourer
John literate/Mary not
Witnesses James & Alice Chantler (both literate)

The onther one for John Dale Chantler had a father called Thomas but a coach builder so I didn't bother with it. If you want details let me know and I will do it next time.

Pat

Will do the lookups gladly on my next visit but I may not be able to make it till the week after next.

Audrey
Hesson M/c,
Edwardson M/c & USA,
Danbury M/c & USA,
Cartledge Salford,
Gatley Stalybridge & USA,
Murphy Ireland & M/c
Binns Yorkshire & Lancashire


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Re: marriages in Manchester Cathedral in 1840's
« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 05 July 05 04:51 BST (UK) »
Dear Audrey,
Thank you so much, there is no hurry, but I must tell you that after going completely up the wrong tree I am more cautious now, and this research you may do for me will put it beyond doubt, so  a very big thank you and as I said there is absolutely no hurry, just when you are able to will be fine.
Kind regards,
Pat
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Re: marriages in Manchester Cathedral in 1840's
« Reply #86 on: Thursday 14 July 05 07:50 BST (UK) »
Pat
Just to let you know I could not go to Manchester this week due to work commitments but will do your look up next time.
Aud
Hesson M/c,
Edwardson M/c & USA,
Danbury M/c & USA,
Cartledge Salford,
Gatley Stalybridge & USA,
Murphy Ireland & M/c
Binns Yorkshire & Lancashire

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Re: marriages in Manchester Cathedral in 1840's
« Reply #87 on: Friday 15 July 05 00:44 BST (UK) »
Dear Audrey

Thank you so much, there is no hurry for you to do this, I am grateful if you can , and I hope it is not too much of an imposition, especially as you have to work too.
Thank you again,
Pat
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Re: marriages in Manchester Cathedral in 1840's
« Reply #88 on: Friday 15 July 05 09:02 BST (UK) »
Pat
It is no problem at all to do the lookup.
Aud
Hesson M/c,
Edwardson M/c & USA,
Danbury M/c & USA,
Cartledge Salford,
Gatley Stalybridge & USA,
Murphy Ireland & M/c
Binns Yorkshire & Lancashire

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Re: marriages in Manchester Cathedral in 1840's
« Reply #89 on: Sunday 17 July 05 06:00 BST (UK) »
Dear Aud,
Thank you so very much.
Regards,
Pat
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