Tiggi's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In.

[deb usa]

Colleen ...hi Cous  ...isn't this fab .... we may never get to the bottom of this ...but we 'know'...they are all connected

deb xxxx

[colleena]

 

Hi Deb 
Yep this is great stuff,  Sandy has done some amazing research, with the Bucklands, and knocked down a few brick walls,

 so here's hoping a few more will topple

Colleen

[Lesanne]

Think this is the Marlow one.

Plato Buckland + Ann Hazard 23/7/1812
Ellesborough Bucks. M073291

Do we have the children for this couple?

[Tephra]

Tiggi, the description of Plato's funeral is just awesome.     I could see the flames and the people standing around.

Thank you for sharing that with us.


Barbara

[tiggi]

Hi good morning Everyone
Well day 2 lets see what we can find today  !!!
 I think you are all doing a wonderful job its not easy I have been researching for years and what I have found I am pleased about as I only started with 2 names  & one Photo
Its so sad though even when you find someone associated with family it doesn;t always work out There are still those walls
 I am proud of my roots and so should we all be no matter where we come from
I have found over the years its mostly because families have secrets something has happen in the past it could be serious or just a family mistake !!
I was saying to someone the other day when they were downing gypsies as only  thieves and murders !! well excuse me look to your own first there was more crimes committed by non gypsy people ,
Has a gypsy ever tried to rule a country like a dictator ?
Has a Gypsy caused a War ?
Has a Gypsy ever assasinated A President ?
They don;t even have a country to call their own

All they really ever did was wanted not to live in houses and roam free yes they had some traditions that may have seemed strange to non gypsy people but so have many countries do we persecute them for their beliefs ?

Like most things we only ever hear about the bad people of every race never the ones who do good, today there are gypsies who work as Doctors nurses policemen teachers  etc all good people
The one thing I like about the Gypsies is that no matter what there was always a strong family bond and something that lots of non gypsies even today don;t have respect for their elders
We never really had Kings & Queens in the sense like the Royal family , but it was a Title given with respect to those who had a great responiblity to try and keep some sort of stablity within the tribe like the head of a family we all need someone to turn too for advice and guidance
 I hope this helps explains alittle about Gypsies
I know of 2 stories which I found very funny and also shows that gypsies do have morals
 Thie first one was told to me by an old man with a twinkle in his eye :
When he was young he worked the fields and one day he shared his lunch with another young lad he gave him meat and bread knowing that the meat was hedgehog ( yes they did eat them that is true) but he didn;t tell the young man waiting for him to ask , but he didn;t so the gypsy man said you know what you have eaten ? to his surprise the lad replied  yes it was hedgehog !!
He then said and good it was have you anymore !!


The 2nd story proves that gypsies did respect the law of the land I cannot say the name of person but he was known to have a bad temper and did murder a man which he went to prison for many years , but he also had a son this son stole a bottle of lemonade from the milkman delivering in the village, the father was so displeased with his son he marched him to the local police station and turned his own son in.
 that may sound very hard , but it was done to teach the lad respect not to steal , if only today parents were as caring , maybe children wouldn;t do things if they had more respect for family morals and parents took a more serious line in bringing them up
Right I will get off my soap box now lolllol
Those that know me we say I have a strong will and even stronger feelings for the Gypsies, but I am not judgemental there is good and bad in all it just depends which road you take to where you will end

ZHAN LE DEVLEVSA TAI SASTIMASA
Go with god and in good Health

[DJFRENCH]

i loved reading the newspaper cutting.... my mascara is gonna run.... it was so moving ...


real true history...wonderful.

Debz

[deb usa]

Hi Tiggi

great speech .... I too am so proud of them!

back to the hunt ... here's my thought...

I posted yesterday..re Timothy Buckland (b Wilts) and Tryphena Buckland (b Oxford , I think) .

 I found this on IGI:
TIMOTHY BUCKLEN
chr:  01 apr 1798   Seend, Wiltshire
Parents ~ Barington Bucklen and Charlotte

The Name Barrington ...seems to go with what you posted yesterday "Edward Buckland might be older brother to or even father of Abraham Barendon Buckland husband of Diana Smith
Plato & brother Tenant maybe descendants of this Edward & Diana Buckland"


Children of Barrington and Charlotte ;
DELPHI BUCKLAND ....chr~ 17 MAR 1805 Potterne, Wiltshire
 PRUDENCE BUCKLAND chr ~ 15 JUN 1807 Edington, Wiltshire

as i said ...just some thoughts ...  

Kushti bok
deb

 

[DJFRENCH]

nothing to do with the hunt..... when i lived in South of France in a small village, we had relatives ,living there, of Manitas de Plata , the  famous gypsy guitarist. Rosa, used to sell me her various wares but one day she sold me a beautiful wooden carved rose brooch. I loved it, she was a fab character and she used to sell those really old fashioned bloomers that had a gap from one knee to the other   she used to push them around in a huge brown pram.


Sorry ...you got me nostalging  

[tiggi]

Hi everyone
 Its lovely to see stories about any of the families this is what I mean about passing on memories its not just about finding names and dates its wondeful to put something real that shows these people lived and wow did they live colourful lives
If anyone is interested in reading stories try the NEW York Archives you can join for free and there are loads of stories on there about gypsy families
i think this is something else people are not aware of that many families went over sea to USA Canada to escape from the periscution they suffered here in the UK
Gypsies were great to use for cheap labour in the early years  but when machinery came of age they became not needed although it also affected many non gypsy people there is much on internet about the riots by people who felt that land owners and of course the worst offender the church were not helping or hearing their pleas that they couldn;t survive, the Church especially was getting rich on their suffering
I have read many stories of families being transported for this which must have been heart breaking for wives & children maybe never to see their father again many never survived the long journies