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« Reply #171 on: Thursday 21 February 08 19:01 GMT (UK) »
Caravans, Little Marlow, Buckingham 1881
PRO Ref RG11    Piece 1465    Folio 120    Page 42

Mootey HASARD M 45  M  Head, Trawler And Dealer (Coster)
Emma W. HASARD   40  F  Wife
Cidemente HASARD U 23  F  Daur
William HASARD U 18  M Taplow, Buckingham, Son
Sally HASARD   13  F Ascot, Berkshire,  Daur
Agnes HASARD   10  F Maidenhead, Berkshire, Daur
Mingo HASARD   8  F Reading, Berkshire, Daur
Ann Pella HASARD   16  F Oxford, Daur

Thomas FLETCHER M 40  M  Head, Trawler And Dealer (Coster)
Gotilla FLETCHER M 40  F Wife
Frampton FLETCHER U 16  M  Son
Vintine FLETCHER U 14  F Reading, Berkshire, Daur
Sarah FLETCHER   12  F Wycombe, Buckingham, Daur
Tommy Dodd FLETCHER   6  M Stokenchurch, Oxford,  Son
Nathan FLETCHER   4  M Wood Cut, Oxford,  Son
Providence FLETCHER   3  F Cane End, Oxford, Daur
Henry FLETCHER   8 m M Aylesbury, Buckingham, Son

Plato BUCKLAND   45  M  (Head) Trawler And Dealer (Coster)
Ann WILLIAMS   45  F
Owen WILLIAMS   14  M  Son
Jobey WILLIAMS   12  M  Son
Motey WILLIAMS   10  M Near Henley, Oxford, Son
Nathan WILLIAMS   8  M Oxford, Oxford, Son
Albert WILLIAMS   4  M Reading, Berkshire, Son
Alfred WILLIAMS   13  M Thame, Son (slept from the van)
Mary Maria DORMER U 40  F Beaconsfield, Buckingham,  Cook D Serv
 

here is a census record for the guy lol



Tiggi considering the MArlow Plato married a Hazard and there are Hazards in the same vicinity i.e next caravan but one! i geuss this is the Marlow one, what is confusing me is that you said your Plato took out a tenacy or brought a property with Ann Williams who appears here with Plato Buckland


No  My Plato in 1883 had a mortage in Modbury devon with a Ann Tuckeer mentioned not Williams
TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells
 
AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON

USA   Worton Stanley Joles Cooper  Jeffrey Small
 all English lines of Roms who are found in America

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« Reply #172 on: Thursday 21 February 08 19:03 GMT (UK) »
this is from an earlier thread :~

Nelson Buckland and wife Betsey in 1881:

RG11/2217/137/55
In Caravans, Pethericks Ground, Bannerock St, Tavistock, Devon

Eliza Buckland - Grandau - 6 - b Plymouth
Anne Buckland - Grandau - 18 - b Bodmin
Sophy Smith - Grandau - 1 - b Birmingham
Nelson Smith - Grandson - 3wks - b Callington, Cornwall



are these yours?


Yes rambler all my family the 1901 Census lists james Buckland my Gandfather

so who do these (grand)children belong to ?



Yes Buckland grandchildren
eliza is daughter of Nelson & Betsey nee Smith
Not sure but we think Ann is actually a daughter to Tenet & Keziah Buckland not grand daughter the Smith belong to Edith Buckland tenet daughter
TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells
 
AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON

USA   Worton Stanley Joles Cooper  Jeffrey Small
 all English lines of Roms who are found in America

UK Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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« Reply #173 on: Thursday 21 February 08 19:21 GMT (UK) »
I am going to try and recap all this

Tenet Buckland born 1831 England
married Keziah Jeffery b 1832 England
BROTHER
Plato Buckland born 1839 England
married Elizabeth Small  England
They married 15th May 1860 Wayne Ohio

Edward Buckland & Diana Smith are possible Grandparents or relations
they had a  Daughter Tehanna Buckland married john Fletcher 1822 Bucks
They had a son Isaac Buckland married a Salome Hearn
1831 Bucks

Just so we understand Plato Buckland born 1836 Marlow Bucks isn;t their sibling he maybe a relative  but still not proven
Although he travels with Fletcher & Williams which go back further in family possible link to family

Children of Tenet & Keziah Buckland

Tryphena bap 1852 St Blazey cornwall
Edith  born 1851 or 1854 married wisdom Smith 1872 Bromsgrove
They had 4 children
Nelson Buckland b 1856 maried Betsey Smith 1874 plymouth (MY GREAT GREAT GRANDPARENTS)
Henry Buckland b 1862 married Harriet Penfold
Anne  Buckland born 1863 died unmarried
Thomas Buckland b 1865 married Phebe Stanley
Esther Buckland born 1866 married Mark Jeffery in USA
Moses Buckland b 1867 married Jenty Stanley
Plato Buckland b 1870 married Priscilla Jeffery


This is 1881 Census lists Plato family
Plato Buckland aged 40 licensed Hawker & horse dealer born 1841 NK Bedfordshire
Betsey Buckland aged 38 born 1843 NK Devonshire
Genty Buckland aged 17 born 1864 NK Cornwall married William Penfold 1887 Plymouth
Joshua Buckland aged 15 born 1855 NK Cornwall married Selina Penfold 1887 Totnes Devon
Sophia Buckland aged 13 born 1868 NK Devonshire married James Penfold 1887 Plymouth
Keziah Buckland aged 11 born 1870 NK Somerset
married Moses Small
Tryphena Buckland aged 9 born 1872 NK Warwickshire
Caroline Buckland aged 7 born NK Cornwall
Eliza Buckland aged 4 born 1877 NK Devonshire
Selina Buckland aged 0 born 1881 Yealmpton Devonshire

Another child a boy Nelson that was born about 1862, he would have been their eldest child, he died in 1873 aged 10 registered death is Kingsbridge Devonshire Jan/Feb/M


TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells
 
AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON

USA   Worton Stanley Joles Cooper  Jeffrey Small
 all English lines of Roms who are found in America

UK Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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« Reply #174 on: Thursday 21 February 08 19:25 GMT (UK) »
I would like to thank everyone who has  tried to help me find my family
I still would love to find Tenet Birth or his marriage but its looking unlikely
If anyone can tell me how to get a copy of Plato marriage  in USa that may help solve puzzle if his parents are on there maybe not but would be good to get it

Please don;t feel this was waste of time even the experts have never been able to find anything to confirm the parentage of Tenet or Plato Buckland
As its such a large family and so many its not suprising

I really have taken noticed of everything you have all found and wil carry on looking  many thanks everyone

TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells
 
AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON

USA   Worton Stanley Joles Cooper  Jeffrey Small
 all English lines of Roms who are found in America

UK Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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« Reply #175 on: Friday 22 February 08 08:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tiggi,
Pallots Marriages have 3 entries with Plato.
I couldn't find anything with Tenet or deriv's of.

Posting them, just in case.....

Denny, Plato
Cape, Fanny
15/11/1819
Female Harringt'n
Cumbld 2

Plato, Plato
Platt, Platt

Plato, Silvester
Cleghorn, Elizth
1818
St Giles Cripplegate

Then these last 2.

Phillip Buckland
Anne Tizard
1793
Maiden Newton Dorset

Buckland Mary
Boswell Bartholomew
1798
Gt Gonerby Lincolnshire
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« Reply #176 on: Friday 22 February 08 09:16 GMT (UK) »
maybe it is worth buying the uppingham birth cert ?
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« Reply #177 on: Friday 22 February 08 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Lesanne for you information noted down you never know thank you
Yes toni I think I will have to just too buy it just for curiousity
Many thanks everyone
 
TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells
 
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USA   Worton Stanley Joles Cooper  Jeffrey Small
 all English lines of Roms who are found in America

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« Reply #178 on: Friday 22 February 08 10:15 GMT (UK) »



I think everyone has done a wonderful job Tiggi, I hope you're enjoying your Hunt.     ;D


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« Reply #179 on: Friday 22 February 08 10:23 GMT (UK) »
Could this be Thomas Jeffery and family in 1851?  I realise the birthplaces don't fit, but "Jane' could be Ganey, and Mark is the right age.

HO107/1903; Folio: 315; Page: 20
"In a tent", Lameath, Cornwall

Thomas Jeffry - Head - 23 - Basket Maker & Tin Worker - Warwickshire
Jane Jeffry - Wife - 23 - Weymouth, Dorset



Mark Jeffry - Son - 5 - Chard, Somerset
Lucy Jeffry - Dau - 3 - Bridport, Dorset
Benjamin Jeffry - Son - 1 - Devon
Henry Jeffry - Bro - 15 - Basket Maker - Voyes, Wiltshire

There's a note added against the entry: "Please to excuse this error.  Egyptians."  No idea what the "error" is!

Rambler

Just to up date on this find which is really good it has solved a part of family thanks to Rambler
although I was looking surname Jeffery but now realise they  used variant names :

Thomas Jeffry was the one I was looking for regarding his Son Mark Jeffry
Mark married a Ganey ( Janey) Stanley had 5 children together 4 girls & boy which I have information on
In abt 1888 in USA he then remarried Esther Buckland daughter of Tenant & Keziah Buckland ( my family)
Keziah just for interest is also known as Cassia

cont:
But from 1851 Census I have found that Thomas Jeffy  was 1st married to a Ganey Wells (Jane) he  then went on to marry Amelia Stanley here in England and lived their Lives in USA  Amelia was daughter of Levi Stanley  & Matilda Joles  - Levi was son of Owen Stanley & Harriet Wharton ( Famous for being King & Queen in USA Ohio)

I know that in my family On Grans side that a James Stanley also married a Unity Wells  they were my great great Grandparents
So maybe Janey & Untiy are sisters or stem from same family

Thomas also had another Son called William born 1856 which I hadn't found until now

The Family of Stanley Bryer & Penfold went across in 1856 on Osprey all listed
Thomas Jeffry was with his 2nd wife Amelia Stanley and 2 sons  Mark & William although no ages given for the boys just enfants I didn;t know for sure if these were Amelia sons but now know that Mark was from 1st marriage but William could be son with Amelia gonig by his birth year,
 
 At first I was thinking this isn;t same Thomas  form 1851, but then noticed Henry Jeffs was listed aged 21 with wife Phillis although different name spelling this has to be Thomas brother from 1851 census and also further searching has found William Jeffry in 1880 Licking Ohio with his wife Mary Bryer who is daughter of John Bryer listed on Osprey with William Jeffry father Thomas
 so thank to Rambler I have sorted another piece of Puzzle Thank you RAMBLER

 This will next information will interest DEBS USA
On same passenger list Osprey is a Robert Penfold 24 with wife Fanny aged 20 and son John aged 1
 DEBS I think this is Fiance Smith b 1835 the one we are waiting on marriage to see if she is daughter of James Smith , which if so makes her my Great Grand mothers sister
There is a William Penfold also listed aged 18/19 could this be Robert brother ?

The other interesting news is that a news paper report dated 1904 USA Ohio when Levi Stanley was buried makes reference to fact before they as family took on title of King & Queen
Before they arrived in USA the king or head of Tribe was BUCHANAN  now I am again unable to prove this but would say that this is BUCKLAND so my family were in USA before Stanley and also King of the tribe

There is another report that backs this up in 1887 found in New York Times Archives
A band of Gypsies from Cornwall numbering 20 + were allowed to enter via Castle Garden ( this was prior to Ellis Island) the Chief was David Buckland and his leiutent was James Stanley
mentions about land in Ohio and they had a very large amount of money with them


Yet to find out about this David  Buckland, I haven;t seen that as a name in family but I do wonder if its possible yet again did Tenant change his name ? but James Stanley could well be my Great Great Grandfather via my Grans side


So more to search and I think the answers are more likely to be across the water about my ancestors





TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells
 
AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON

USA   Worton Stanley Joles Cooper  Jeffrey Small
 all English lines of Roms who are found in America

UK Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk