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Cheshire county boundaries
« on: Monday 18 February 08 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Does anybody know when The Wirral ceased to be part of Cheshire and became a county in it's own right.  I am not sure where to look up records for 1880/90's.

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Re: Cheshire county boundaries
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 February 08 15:13 GMT (UK) »
In 1974 the metropolitan county of Merseyside was formed from parts of Lancashire and Cheshire.  It was at that time that the Metropolitan Borough of Wirral was brought into being as one of the four boroughs which constitute Merseyside.

It is still regarded as being part of the "traditional county" of Cheshire.

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Re: Cheshire county boundaries
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 February 08 15:46 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Cheshire county boundaries
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 February 08 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Fidgit - you'll find those Wirral BMD records so far transcribed are on the CheshireBMD site at
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

A couple of tips - for areas like this that might be on one of two local BMD sites, the home page normally has the logos of the participating councils and each section has a coverage list, by area. It is also possible to search more than one of the local BMD sites that use the same software via the UKBMD site at
http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/
Though unlike the local sites your search is restricted to 25 years at a time.


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Re: Cheshire county boundaries
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 February 08 16:28 GMT (UK) »
In 1974 the metropolitan county of Merseyside was formed from parts of Lancashire and Cheshire. It is still regarded as being part of the "traditional county" of Cheshire.

David
Wirral is a Unitary Authority in the county of Merseyside.
In 1986 the metropolitan county councils were abolished, although the county areas  are still recognised, especially for statistical purposes.
However as behindthefrogs says it is still in the historic county of Cheshire

 The changes in 1974 did not alter the boundaries of the historic counties see
http://www.abcounties.co.uk/newgaz/cen.htm#section3.4

'Note that the LGA 1972 did not do anything to the historic Counties of Britain. It only abolished the administrative counties and county boroughs. The Government was (and still is) happy to confirm that the Counties themselves were unaffected: "The new county boundaries are solely for the purpose of defining areas of ... local government. They are administrative areas, and will not alter the traditional boundaries of Counties, nor is it intended that the loyalties of people living in them will change.". DoE Statement, 1st April 1974

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Re: Cheshire county boundaries
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 February 08 18:40 GMT (UK) »
 The changes in 1974 did not alter the boundaries of the historic counties.

Oh yes they did - TINTWISTLE AND WOODHEAD were in Cheshire until then and now they are in Derbyshire. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Heap - Holmfirth WRY
Rhodes-Flockton WRY & NE Cheshire
Ridgway- NE Cheshire & Lancahire
Roebuck - Upperthong WRY
Wild - NECheshire
Riley - NE Cheshire & Derbyshire
Greaves - NE Cheshire & Lancashire

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Re: Cheshire county boundaries
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 February 08 21:23 GMT (UK) »
What they mean is that historically TINTWISTLE AND WOODHEAD  are  in Cheshire with respect to  the county boundaries as they were before 1974. Warrington and Widnes were put administratively into Cheshire by the 1974 boundary changes but they are still within the historic boundaries of Lancashire.
Apparently Tintwistle and Woodhead are, for administrative purposes in the High Peak Unitary Authority in the county of Derbyshire.
As the statement says;
They are administrative areas, and will not alter the traditional boundaries of Counties,


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Re: Cheshire county boundaries
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 February 08 18:38 GMT (UK) »
BUT it does amke a difference to where the archives are.  My Gt grandfather was the Chairman of Longdendale Rural District Council - most of Longdendale is now in Tameside BUT the minutes of the meetings (held in Mottram) are in the Matlock Office.
Heap - Holmfirth WRY
Rhodes-Flockton WRY & NE Cheshire
Ridgway- NE Cheshire & Lancahire
Roebuck - Upperthong WRY
Wild - NECheshire
Riley - NE Cheshire & Derbyshire
Greaves - NE Cheshire & Lancashire