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JOSEPH POGSON
« on: Saturday 16 February 08 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Joseph Pogson was born in 1830 in Lingards Yorks to James & Betty Pogson

Joseph married Charlotte Armitage in 1852, and had a son Sam (my gt gt grandfather)
Charlotte died in 1856.  Leaving Sam behind Joseph left for America in the 1870,s
Joseph appears on the 1880 USA census for New London Norwich Conn. with new wife Margaret ? (born Scotland) and son George D (born 1874 Main)
Joseph also appears on the 1887-89 directories for Norwich Conn
Josephs son George D appears on an 1896 directory for Norwich as 'rem to Arizona. George D appears on the 1900 census for Pima Arizona.

After this there is no trace of the family.  Letters from George D in 1886 to his stepbrother Sam in the UK speak of cousins, Aunts and Grandparents (poss his mother family) visiting them in Norwich.

Any Ideas where to look to find out what happened to the family and who Margaret was.

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Re: JOSEPH POGSON
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 February 08 18:35 GMT (UK) »
They do seem to disappear, don't they? I would try contacting the Pima county Library

http://www.library.pima.gov/

Maybe they can give you  little guidance. I would also try the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness site for Connecticut. My guess is his parents died before that directory listing for George in Norwich, or his dad would have been mentioned there. There could be a tombstone or church that might give you guidance.

And here is a site for Norwich genealogy: http://www.norwichct.org/content/169/177/default.aspx

It's a start at least.

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Re: JOSEPH POGSON
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 February 08 13:49 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for your suggestions.
 Have spent the day looking through cem records for both states.
 But still nothing. Lots of sites bring you back to Ancestry (of which I have been a member for yrs).
Have looked at chat rooms for both states, and left messages, but if George had no children I may be the only one looking for them. Hopefully someone will be looking for a marrage to Joseph Pogson, ie Margarets family.

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Re: JOSEPH POGSON
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 October 13 20:25 BST (UK) »
Hi My name is Karen and I have been researching Bannisters in Lincolnshrie extensively. Would love to get in touch with anyone with similar interests.


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Re: JOSEPH POGSON
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 October 13 20:44 BST (UK) »
Hi I am Julia. My grandmother was a bannister (Ethel bannister). She married my grandfather Sam boothby. There are extensive members of both families from Lincolnshire.

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Re: JOSEPH POGSON
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 October 13 20:54 BST (UK) »
Was Joseph in the USA in 1870 -  ???  Could this be him  under PUGSON ???

Lisbon, Androscoggin, Maine 1870 - listed with a lot of other workers at Woolen Mills.

Nathan Eaton 59 C A Eaton 40
Ruth L Eaton 21 Roland L Eaton 19 Mary E Eaton 17 Nathan W Eaton 14 James H Eaton 8
Martha E Small 15 Mary A Small 11
Thursa Mason 28
John Holt 42 Ann Holt 41
Willie Gillmore 20 Maggie Gillmore 17 Sarah Gillmore 23
Greenwood John 19 Mary John 19 Sarah John 15
Robert Cotterell 21 Born England. Works in woollen Mill.
Joseph Pugson 41 Born England. Works in Woollen Mill.
Edward Warren 30 Mary Warren 26 Anna Warren 7 James Warren 5

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M6DZ-V86

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Re: JOSEPH POGSON
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 October 13 21:32 BST (UK) »
US Naturalization for Joseph Pogson born England. Norwich Court of Common Please 20 October 1890.

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Re: JOSEPH POGSON
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 October 13 21:39 BST (UK) »
Joseph appears Norwich, Connecticut, City Directory, 1890/91/92/93

1893 Joseph Pogson 24 July  - 63 (could that be age - have never seen it before  ???)  and Margaret M Pogson - Dec 16 - 56


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Re: JOSEPH POGSON
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 October 13 13:42 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for the information.
Joseph Pogson was born in 1830 ish. He did not appear on the UK census for April 1871, so I presumed he had left the UK by then, but could not find him on the 1870 for the US. So I thought he had moved between the census dates. So much of the information for the Pugson man is the same, down to occupation I feel this must be him.
I did find the naturalisation record last year. And the entry in the Norwich directory for Joseph and Margaret's deaths. There son George D seemed to remain in the area until 1895 (directory information) in 1896. He was listed as removed to Arizona . The 1900 census gives a George B as living in Pima Arizona, after this I found no trace of George D.