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« Reply #216 on: Sunday 09 March 08 02:13 GMT (UK) »


"Butcher Jack" Vahey

Probably the most colourful character to ride in the Charge of the Light Brigade at the Battle of Balaclava in 1854 was John Vahey, regimental butcher of the 17th Lancers and known to all as “Butcher Jack”.
Canon William Lummis describes his activities
“ Vahey……was slaughtering on the morning of the 25th. Hearing of the Heavy Brigade’s charge, he went to rejoin his regiment, still in his bloody overalls , stopping only to put on the sword and pouch of a dead soldier and riding off on his horse. He was directed by Lieutenant Chadwick to rejoin his own squadron, which he did and rode with Wightman down the valley. Vahey’s horse was shot and he lay insensible beneath it. When he was eventually released he walked back from whence he started.
He went to India in 1857. He was said to be a heavy drinker, who would dig graves to earn extra money. On a long march from Gwalior to Secunderabad, the regiment was struck by cholera. Vahey died and was buried with six other victims in a grave he himself had dug.”
 
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« Reply #217 on: Sunday 09 March 08 02:19 GMT (UK) »


Regimental Sergeant Major Thomas Morley

He fought in the Crimean War with the 17th Lancers .....  He took part in the Charge at Balaclava in 1854. After his discharge he travelled to America in 1862 and served as a Lieutenant (later promoted Captain) with the 12th Pennsylvania Cavalry and was twice taken prisoner of war by the Confederates. Morley’s qualities did not include modesty. He had a very high opinion of himself and repeatedly petitioned on his own account over a period of 35 years for the Victoria Cross which he believed he deserved for bravery at Balaclava and Inkermann. He didn’t get it.

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[The birthplace of Burns is now (February 1879) in the hands of Mr Thomas Morley, a retired soldier and very curiously an Englishman - who deserves more than a passing notice from the circumstance that he took part in the charge of the Light Brigade at Balaclava, and with the last remnant of that ill-fated squadron under his command cut his way through the Russian lines and rejoined the British forces when the blundering order which almost annihilated his regiment had been fulfilled. Finding that this and other heroic achievements performed by him during the ardous campaign were slightly passed over by the War Department, he joined the American Army, and during the civil war of that country rose to the post of Captain. When peace was restored, he returned to this country and became Regimental Sergeant-Major of the Ayshire Yeomanry Cavalry, and latterly tenant of "The Cottage." Under his judicious management, drink is no longer dispensed within its precincts, but is wholly confined to the adjoining slated house, where all visitors desirous of indulging must consume their potations.]

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Morley, Thomas  12th Pennsylvania Cavalry  - 1170
Enrolled - 6-25-62
As - 2nd Lt. at - Washington, D.C.
Discharged  - 4-25-65
Age at enrollment  - 32
Remarks - Pro to 1st Lt Co. G 5-1-64 Trans from Co.G and Pro to Capt. Co I 2-6-65.
Resigned.

It's believed that he was twice captured and released/escaped, and may have found employment at the War Dept in Washington after his discharge.

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Thomas Morley 1st Lt. June 25, 1862 ........... 3 year term
Promoted to 2d Lt., June 25, 1862
to 1st Lt.. May 1, 1864
to Captain Company I, February 6, 1865

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« Reply #218 on: Sunday 09 March 08 04:28 GMT (UK) »


Lt Daniel Clutterbuck  8th Hussars

Captain Hugh Clutterbuck of Hardenhuish Park Chippenham

born at Bath March 15th 1828 ... died  5 August 1906

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The deaths of both ( in 1906 ) followed in the nine months since their Golden Wedding Mrs Clutterbuck at the end of April .... Last year 1905 Mr Clutterbuck was confined to his room a great deal owing to injuries sustained in two severe accidents  Mr Clutterbuck was a JP for the county of Wiltshire and the inhabitants of the district in which he lived always ( spoke ) in high terms both of his and the late Mrs Clutterbucks great kindness to those among whom they lived and the family rank as one of the most respected in the district ... he died  5 August 1906 in Corsham

Both were interred at Corsham in St Batholomew's churchyard

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« Reply #219 on: Sunday 09 March 08 04:32 GMT (UK) »


Pte William Robinson of the 4th Light Dragoons

Some of the visitors this weekend were direct descendants of soldiers who took part. Peter Robinson's great-great-great-grandfather, Pte William Robinson of the 4th Light Dragoons, survived the charge.

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Mr Robinson, 58, said: "He was blown off his horse and stunned. The horse nudged him and brought him round, he remounted and rode to safety."

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« Reply #220 on: Sunday 09 March 08 04:39 GMT (UK) »


William Pearson (1826-1909)

He was born in Penrith in 1826. He was brought up in North Westmorland and was a leather dresser before running away to enlist in the 4th Light Dragoons in 1848, at Westminster. He was serving in Ireland when the regiment received orders for the Crimea.
During the Charge of the Light Brigade at Balaclava his horse stumbled over another that had fallen and he had to mount a rider-less horse of the 8th Hussars. He had an epaulette shot from his shoulder and returned from the affair with a wound to his forehead. The severe Crimean winter left Pearson with frost-bite and he spent Christmas Eve 1854 having four toes amputated. He was nursed by Florence Nightingale at the hospital in Scutari before being invalided home.
He was presented before Queen Victoria in 1855, and discharged as unfit for further military service, with a pension of 8d a day. This was later increased to 12s a week by the Royal Patriotic Fund. He received the Crimea Medal (with clasps for Alma, Balaclava, Inkerman and Sebastopol), the Turkish Medal, and he also had a Good Conduct Badge.

He died July 1909 aged 82 and was buried with military honours in Parkside Cemetery Kendal

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« Reply #221 on: Sunday 09 March 08 05:55 GMT (UK) »



I came across this and they would like as much help as possible to find out more information .... or photographs .... any help would be much appreciated  :)

The Australian graves of Crimean War Light Brigade veterans.

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Pte John Gray 1485 4th Light Dragoons was born at Chatham Kent on 25 November 1831, the son of William Gray a painter, and his wife, Mary.
He enlisted at Rochester in the 57th Regiment of Foot on 24 November 1845 at the age of 15 years. Gray was appointed Drummer in October 1849. He transferred as a Private to the 4th Light Dragoons in May 1851 and `to serve in the Regimental Band.'

Slightly wounded at Balaclava during the Charge, he was entitled to the Crimean medal with clasps `Alma', `Balaclava' and `Sebastopol', and was discharged from Dublin in May 1861, after 12 years service

Gray lived in Chatham, England, up to 1864, but he later emigrated to Australia and settled near Fremantle, where he died on 24 June 1891, aged 60 years, from "Paralysis Alcoholism, (Acute)." He was buried in the old cemetery in Alma Street, Fremantle, which has now been levelled and a check of the Records of Burial shows that there is a gap in them of 24 years between the 31 of July 1875 and the 4 of March 1897, thus no trace of his grave can be found.

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« Reply #222 on: Sunday 09 March 08 06:05 GMT (UK) »



The Australian graves of Crimean War Light Brigade veterans.

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Private Edward Grennan 1425 4th Light Dragoons was born at Maryborough, Co. Queens Ireland and enlisted at Athlone in October of 1849, at the age of 18 years into the 4th Light Dragoons.
He was discharged from Cahir Ireland in October 1861 after 11 years service
He was entitled to the Crimean medal with clasps `Alma', `Balaclava', `Inkerman' and Sebastopol'.

He went to Australia on 1 November 1862, having gone from the Killkenny Ireland Pension District.

Grennan died at Royal Park Melbourne 14th December 1896 aged 61 and was buried in the Melbourne General Cemetery - a Roman Catholic -  he was interred in Grave No. 58a in Plot D. on 16 December 1896.
The erected ledger stone cross and headstone are of roughly dressed bluestone. The only inscription on the ledger stone is `To One of the Noble Six Hundred', but on the marble slab on the headstone is written, `In memory of Edward Grennan, native of Queens Co. Ireland, who as a soldier of the 4th Light Dragoons fought at Alma, Inkerman and Sebastopol and also with the Light Brigade at Balaclava. He died at Royal Park Melbourne 14th December 1896, aged 61 years. May God have mercy on his soul.'

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« Reply #223 on: Sunday 09 March 08 12:34 GMT (UK) »
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« Reply #224 on: Sunday 09 March 08 18:47 GMT (UK) »


Thought this may be of interest .... I hadn't seen a map I could understand ......  ::) though this is not too clear ... it gave me a better idea !!  :)

Four miles to the rear lay the small town of Balaclava, through which the British supplies had to pass. From the head of the harbour was a grassy undulating place North East from the Tchernaya River, the plain itself some half a mile north of Balaclava, was bounded by a range of low hillocks extending west for nearly three miles from the village of Kamara. Along this ridge known as the Causeway Heights ran the 'Worontsoff Road'. Across the south valley lay the village of Kadikoi, and it was in the valley that the cavalry established itself with the heavy cavalry sharing piquet and outpost duty. To the north was North Valley, the scene of the Charge of the Light Brigade with the Sapoune Ridge and the Fedioakine Hills forming the Northern background to the battle whilst the Russian guns were to the east of the valley. Early on the morning of 25th October, following a Russian assault on the Eastern end of the redoubts, they soon carried redoubt No 1 (Canroberrs Hill) through redoubts 4 - 5 and with the Heavy Brigade counter attacking, the Light Brigade established itself at the Eastern end of the valley with Lord Raglan and Canroberts on the Sapoune Ridge.

At about 9.30 am the Russians consolidated their positions around redoubts 1 - 3 while their cavalry halted and reformed behind the protection of a battery of Don Cossack Horse Artillery.

Ordered by Lord Raglan, Lord Lucan assumed that he was to support an infantry attack and moved the Light Brigade up the North valley as far as the No 4 Redoubt. Lord Raglan from his elevated position could see Russian artillery teams moving forward, and assumed they were about to capture British guns abandoned in the redoubts, and he therefore ordered his Quartermaster, General Airey to send the order to Lord Lucan:

"Lord Raglan wishes the cavalry to advance rapidly to the front, follow the enemy and try to prevent he enemy carrying away the guns. Troop Horse Artillery may accompany. French Cavalry is on your left. Immediate."

On receiving this order from Captain Nolan the only guns Lucan could see were those attached to the Russian Cavalry at the far end of the North valley. "There my Lord, are your guns, there are the enemy." Nolan impatiently exclaimed with a sweep of his arm which took in the greater part of the Russian position

This order passed to Lord Cardigan who commented, "Well there goes the last of the Brudenells" and led the Brigade forward at a trot. Thus commenced the famous Charge, the 8th and 11th Hussars, 4th and 13th Light Dragoons and the 17th Lancers, writing a page of military history that has thrilled generations to this day.

All order was lost, and the spectators on the Supoune Heights saw only a few stragglers emerging from the smoke filled valley. In fact, 371 of the 658 men involved survived, with a loss of some 362 horses. The losses among the horses were almost certainly higher, as many were put down later. According to one source 113 were all that were left, and the majority of these were to die from exposure and starvation during the following winter. Effectively, the 5 regiments were ineffective as a fighting force as a result of the Charge.


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