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« Reply #189 on: Saturday 08 March 08 04:49 GMT (UK) »

continued .......

Fanny eventually arrived at Balaklava, where she was reunited with her Henry. Conditions on shore were so bad that she regretfully begged a place to live on board ship. On the "Star of the South," within the partial protection of the harbour, she rode out a violent storm which destroyed ships and badly-needed supplies. Two weeks later, bodies were still afloat in the harbour. "I was scarcely over the ship's side, when the boat drifted – oh, horror! – against a dead body, one of the many that were floating in from the wrecks outside."

The situation in the Crimea were appalling, and bad decisions created extra hardships for the British army. The harsh conditions of daily life -- starving, wet, freezing, and surrounded by cholera-carrying filth -- killed thousands of men and horses. Fanny wrote scathingly:

'If any body should ever wish to erect a "Model Balaklava" in England, I will tell him the ingredients necessary. Take a village of ruined houses and hovels in the extremest state of all imaginable dirt; allow the rain to pour into and outside them, until the whole place is a swamp of filth ancle-deep; catch about, on an average, 1000 sick Turks with the plague, and cram them into the houses indiscriminately; kill about 100 a-day, and bury them so as to be scarcely covered with earth, leaving them to rot at leisure – taking care to keep up the supply. On to one part of the beach drive all the exhausted bât ponies, dying bullocks, and worn-out camels, and leave them to die of starvation. They will generally do so in about three days, when they will soon begin to rot, and smell accordingly. Collect together from the water of the harbour all the offal of the animals slaughtered for the use of the occupants of above 100 ships, to say nothing of the inhabitants of the town, – which, together with an occasional floating human body, whole or in parts, and the driftwood of the wrecks, pretty well covers the water – and stew them all up together in a narrow harbour, and you will have a tolerable imitation of the real essence of Balaklava.'

Not surprisingly, the British soldiers on shore were in poor condition to fight an opposing army. "The appearance of the officers very much resembles that of the horses; they all look equally thin, worn, ragged, and out of condition in every way." If Fanny sometimes seems to have more sympathy for the horses than for the men, perhaps it is because the horses had no share in creating the conditions which they must endure.

From the heights above, on October 25, 1854, Fanny saw both the triumph of Sir Colin Campbell's thin red line, and the heart-breaking destruction of the Light Brigade. "Now came the disaster of the day – our glorious and fatal charge. But so sick at heart am I that I can barely write of it even now. ... presently the Light Brigade, leaving their position, advanced by themselves, although in the face of the whole Russian force, and under a fire that seemed pouring from all sides, as though every bush was a musket, every stone in the hill side a gun. Faster and faster they rode. How we watched them! ... presently come a few horsemen, straggling, galloping back. "What can those skirmishers be doing? See, they form up together again. Good God! it is the Light Brigade!"

Fanny laments the decisions of the British leaders on several occasions. "Ah, how have our resources been wasted! – our horses killed! – our men invalided; while over it all broods the most culpable indifference!"

The Crimean war was a time of great hardships, great mistakes, and great sorrows. But Fanny Duberly was a woman of great spirit! She survived the entire war -- and a later posting to mutinous India -- before settling down with her beloved Henry in England.

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« Reply #190 on: Saturday 08 March 08 04:56 GMT (UK) »


"Sir Briggs" one of the horse survivors of the Charge of the Light Brigade - ridden in the Charge by Lord Tredegar an officer of the 17th Lancers

Place of Birth - South Wales
Famous For - Viscount Lord Tredegar's charger
Trivia - Godfrey Morgan was so grateful to have survived the Crimea, he had Sir Briggs buried in his garden.
Biography - The horse that led Godfrey Morgan into battle,and survived the carnage.

John Greeves tells the full story - A visitor will find the grave of Sir Briggs in the cedar garden of Tredegar house. The inscription reads ....

In Memory of Sir Briggs

Favourite charger. He carried his master the Hon. Godfrey Morgan, Captain 17th Lancers boldly and well at the Battle of Alma, in the first line of the Light Cavalry Charge at Balaclava and the battle of Inkerman, 1854. He died at Tredegar Park February 6th 1874. Aged 28 years.

Sir Briggs was bought in 1851, the same year he won the hunt Steeple Chase at Cowbridge. When the Crimea war broke out, the most sensible thing would have been to send horses and men by steam ship to the Black Sea. It wasn't to be - Sir Briggs set sail from Portsmouth in 1854 on board the Edmundsbury, a sailing ship carrying forty horses, four of which belonged to Godfrey. They lost horses to seasickness. Atheist Captain Morgan's 2nd charger died and was thrown overboard. Other horses continued to die.

The vessel stopped briefly at Malta, and by 19 May had reached the Dardanelles. The vessel anchored at Constantinople for four days. The regiment had lost twenty six horses, and others continued to die.

The troops then embarked for the Bulgarian port of Varna. The Bulgarian phase ended when the Turks took Silistria, and the Russians retreated.

At the Crimea, the cavalry remained largely inactive. It was not until Balaclava, that bloody action was seen. The exact numbers taking part in the charge is controversial, and put between 661 and 673. After the charge only 195 came back. Sir Briggs received a sabre cut to the forehead.

Inkerman followed. Horses became 'hog-maned' and 'rat-tailed'. Many died from starvation.

Godfrey Morgan became sick and returned to Constantinople. Sir Briggs remained in the Crimea with his brother Frederick Morgan, and was used as his staff horse. In the same year that Sebastopol fell, Sir Briggs won the military steeplechase at Sebastopol.

In 1855 - Sir Briggs ( whose memorial is in front of Cardiff's City Hall ) - returned to Tredegar House, where he was finally buried.

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« Reply #191 on: Saturday 08 March 08 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi - I am the 'searching for uniform' posting - kargil - my relation is gggrandfather - Troop Sergeant Major William Bentley - 11th Hussars - saved by Dunn during the Charge. I was invited to Toronto to attend the reinternment of Dunn's remains - but it all fell through at the very last minute?? Have never ever found out why? Flights were all booked so we went anyways! Anyway here is a bit about gggrandpa -

863     William BENTLEY.
Born at Kilnwick-on-the-Wold, Yorkshire on the 25 of October 1816. The parish records of Kilnwick-justa-Witton show a William Bentley, the son of John and Mary Bentley, being baptised there on the 25 of October 1817, by the Revd. William Lugard, Curate. His father’s occupation was shown as that of a labourer.
Enlisted at Beverley on the 7 of July 1835.
Age.  19.     Height.  5’ 9.”    Trade.  Farmer.

Fresh complexion.    Hazel eyes.    Lt. brown hair.

From Pte. to Cpl.    20 of June 1851.

Cpl. to Sgt.     13 of November 1853.

At Scutari from the 22 of September 1854 and sent to rejoin the regiment on the 11 of October.
At Balaclava, Bentley’s life was saved by Lieutenant Dunn cutting down three Russians who were attacking him from the rear. He had been wounded in the knee and in the back of the neck.
At the Cavalry Depot, Scutari, from the 3 of April - 11 of May 1855.
Appointed to Troop-Sgt.  Major on the 26 of November 1855.
(Sent money from the Crimea to his then wife, Mary Bentley, (see later paragraph.)
Discharged from Birmingham on the 7 of July 1860, “To serve with the Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry.” In this he was a Drill Instructor at Calne until 1872, so serving in the Army for a total of 37 years.
Service to count (Regular Army) 25 years 18 days.     In Bulgaria and the Crimea, 2 years.     East Indies, 1 year 6 months.

Conduct, “very good,.”     Was in possession of three G.C. badges when promoted to Sgt.

Never entered in the Regimental Defaulter’s book.     Never tried by Court-martial.

Entitled to the Crimean medal with clasps for Balaclava, Inkerman and Sebastopol and although his group of medals is known to contain all for four clasps. he is not recorded as being entitled to the Alma clasp on the Alma/Inkerman roll.
Awarded the L. S. & G. C. medal on the 25 of May 1857.
Attended the first Balaclava Banquet in 1875.
Member of the Balaclava Commemoration Society in 1879.
Signed the Loyal Address to the Queen in 1887.
He died at No. 2 St. John’s Crescent, Penley’s Grove Street, York, of “Disease of the prostate, Cystitis, for 6 months.” aged 74 years, on the 1 of March 1891.
His burial took place in the old part of York Cemetery, Grave space No. 5854N, on the 5 of March 1891.


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« Reply #192 on: Saturday 08 March 08 18:27 GMT (UK) »
Sir Briggs ~ I have walked past this imposing statue so many times!!!

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Wendi  :)
Who is starting to worry about herself as the animals are more interesting than the men, but then again on this thread the men are older than those we normally look at 'ay Annie  ;)
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« Reply #193 on: Saturday 08 March 08 18:42 GMT (UK) »


Kargill .... thank you so much for sharing that with us ! .....

how exciting that one of these brave soldiers is yours !!  :D :D :D :D ...... I'm envious now !!  ;D

Wendi ... ah yes ! but even the soldiers we look at - are over 100 years old !!  ;D ;D

Thanks for Sir Briggs ... I couldn't find a decent photo !!  :)
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« Reply #194 on: Saturday 08 March 08 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for Sir Briggs ... I couldn't find a decent photo !!  :)
Me neither or is that niether  ::)  ;) Wendi  :)
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« Reply #195 on: Saturday 08 March 08 21:58 GMT (UK) »
horses:

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In cavalry charge the list of casualities among horses is naturally greater than among men . At Talavera 290 horses were killed and 240 men, while at the famous charge of the Light Brigade at Balaclava the losses among horses were 360 (460)* and among men 280.

*One article gives 360, another with almost the same text, but few days later - 460

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« Reply #196 on: Saturday 08 March 08 22:14 GMT (UK) »
LOCKPORT-Sergeant Ambrose Short, one of the "Noble Six Hundred", a groceryman of this city, was kicked by his horse and died of his injuries this morning. He was born in Bristol, England. He took part in the charge of the 600 under Carldigan, coming out untouched. At the Queen's jubilee, which he attended, he received a gold medal for services at Balaklava. He got a medal at the close of the Crimean War, one for service in India, and one from Sultan, which he displayed with pride. He had a certificate of good character from his captain, W.R. Tackwell. A year ago he accidently met George Miles * of Wilson, and old comrade of the Light Brigade, by whose side he rode in the famous charge. Both had lived in Niagara twenty years without knowing the other was still alive.
Nov 15, 1901

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« Reply #197 on: Saturday 08 March 08 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Policeman Charles H. McKenzie*, one of the survivors of the charge of the Light Brigade at Balaklava, which Tennyson has immortalized in verse, was burned out this morning. His house, with all it contained, including even his month's pay, which he got day before yesterday, was destroyed. The house stood on Riverside avenue, at Ninety-seventh street, New York. It was a two story and attic frame building, the property of Alexander McDonald, a resident of California.

03 Mar 1886

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Charles A. McKenzie, one of the "six hundred" who made the famous charge at Balaklava and served here in the War of the Rebellion, was buried yesterday with military honors by Farnham Post, G.A.R., of which he was a member

17 Jan 1887