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Re: One for Liverpool Annie
« Reply #81 on: Monday 03 March 08 23:01 GMT (UK) »


I was keeping this picture so I could get more information but you beat me to it Mike !!  ;D

Thank you for the Pathe News ... I hadn't seen that ... terrific ... I just love this old man !!  :)

ARCHIBALD STANDISH HARTRICK, RWS (1864/5-1950) PORTRAIT OF SGT. JAMES MUSTARD, 17th LANCERS AND THE LIGHT BRIGADE AT BALACLAVA, AT THE CORONATION OF KING GEORGE V Signed, inscribed and dated 1911, pencil charcoal and red chalk 29.5 x 21cm.

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« Reply #82 on: Monday 03 March 08 23:08 GMT (UK) »

I sent an email to this guy but it bounced back .....  :-\ :-\ :-\

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/LANCSGEN/2000-01/0946866195

Would be interesting to talk to him to see what he knows wouldn't it ?

Just look at this face .....

http://www.twickenham-museum.org.uk/detail.asp?ContentID=10

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« Reply #83 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 00:11 GMT (UK) »



He looks like everybody's favourite Granddad.........  ;D ;D ;D


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« Reply #84 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 03:17 GMT (UK) »


If you enlarge the Casualty return .... you'll see there were 6 Staff ( well 7 including "you know who " - Cardigan !! ) 2 were the the Sardinian soldiers that Mike gave us ....... and the others I'll try and include !! but this from TNA is pretty cool !!  :)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/battles/crimea/charge.htm

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8 Brudenell J.T. Major General Staff Led the Charge 28/03/1868

10 Govone G. Major Staff Rode

10 Landriani G. Lieutenant Staff Rode 1858

11 Maxse H.F.B. Lieutenant Staff Rode 08/09/1883

12 Mayow G.W. Lieutenant Colonel Staff Rode 01/01/1873

13 Nolan L.E. ADC Staff Killed 25/10/1854

14 de la TOUR L.G.A Colonel Staff Rode 11/11/1855
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« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 04:02 GMT (UK) »



Lieutenant-Colonel Sir Henry Berkeley Fitzhardinge Maxse KCMG (1832 Effingham Hill, England – September 10 1883 St. John's Newfoundland, Canada)

Was a Newfoundland colonial leader and a Captain during the Crimean War.
Maxse was commissioned Lieutenant in the Grenadier Guards in 1849 and transferred to the 13th Light Dragoons and then the 21st Foot in 1852. He was promoted Captain in 1854 and transferred to the Coldstream Guards in 1855. He was promoted Major in 1855 and Lieutenant-Colonel in 1863.
He was wounded at the Battle of Balaclava and received medals of honour for his service. He was lieutenant-governor of Heligoland in 1863 and appointed as governor the following year. Maxse became governor of Newfoundland in 1881. Maxse was instrumental in the construction of the Newfoundland Railway. Most of his term as governor was spent in Germany with his wife. A noted German-language scholar, he published an English translation of Bismarck's Letters to his Wife and Sisters. Maxse died as a result of the injuries he suffered at the Battle of Balaclava.

The Maxse letter
http://crimeantexts.russianwar.co.uk/topics/maxlet.html

Captain Fitz Maxse— adc to Lord Cardigan
Sir Henry Berkeley Fitzhardinge Maxse (1832-83)
Date                          Event                                                                                       Age
1832                         Born. Son of James Maxse and Caroline (daughter of 5th Earl of Berkeley)
 
01. 6.1849                 Lieutenant, Grenadier Guards                                                     17
11. 6.1852                 Transfer to 13th Light Dragoons                                                  20
06. 7.1852                 Transfer to 21st Foot
1854                          Crimea, as aide-de-camp to Lord Cardigan                                    22
25.10.1854                Wounded in the charge of the Light Brigade
 
Invalided home
Order of the 5th class of the Medjidie
 
29.12.1854                 Captain, Coldstream Guards
1855                           Major                                                                                          23
1863                           Lieutenant-Colonel                                                                      31
1863                           Lieutenant-Governor Heligoland
Feb 1864                     Governor Heligoland                                                                    32
22.12.1873                 Left the army                                                                              41
1881                           Governor Newfoundland                                                               49
10. 9.1883                  Died at St John's                                                                          51

http://www.heritage.nf.ca/govhouse/governors/g52.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Berkeley_Fitzhardinge_Maxse

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Maxse Brevet Major HFB Order of the Medjidie
Maxse HFB Major unattached

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March 1858    Promotions
Lieutenant and Captain and Brevet Major HFB Maxse of the Coldstream Gaurds to substansive rank

http://www.rootschat.com/links/02uw/

Bulletins and Other State Intelligence
21st Foot Lieutenant Henry Fitzhardinge Berkley Maxse from 13th Light Dragoons to be Lieutenant vice Jervis who exchanges
Dated 6th July 1852

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To be Captain without purchase
21st Foot Lieutenant Henry Fitzhardinge Berkley Maxse

http://www.rootschat.com/links/02ux/

Dated 19th December 1854

Hart's Annual Army List Militia List, and Imperial Yeomanry List - Google Books Result by H G Hart - 1855 - Civil service
HFB Maxse, 21 F. Brigade-Major Brevet

Bulletins and Other State Intelligence Compiled and Arranged from ...
1860 - France 3049 Maxse, Brevet Major HFB Order of the Med jidie

1881, Sir H. F. B. Maxse, K.C M.G.
http://www.archive.org/details/yearbooknfld190500newfuoft

Foreign Office files for Japan and the Far East
Series One -  Embassy & Consular Archives - Japan (1905-1940)
(Public Record Office Class FO 262)

Embassy and Consular Staff 1923
Tokyo - Third Secretary - H F B Maxse

Lt.-Col. Sir Henry FitzHardinge Berkeley Maxse
b. 1832, d. 1883
Lt.-Col. Sir Henry FitzHardinge Berkeley Maxse was born in 1832 - He was the son of James Maxse and Lady Caroline FitzHardinge Berkeley. He married Auguste von Rudloff in 1859. He died in 1883.
Lt.-Col. Sir Henry FitzHardinge Berkeley Maxse fought in the Crimean War. He held the office of Governor of Newfoundland. He held the office of Governor of Heligoland. He was invested as a Knight Commander Order of St. Michael and St. George (K.C.M.G.).

Children of Lt.-Col. Sir Henry FitzHardinge Berkeley Maxse and Auguste von Rudloff
Ernest George Berkeley Maxse b. 18 Nov 1863 d. 13 Mar 1943
Craven FitzHardinge Alexander Maxse b. 1865 d. 10 May 1926
Reginald Edgar Maxse b. 1869, d. 29 Jun 1945

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« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 04:18 GMT (UK) »


Captain Louis Edward Nolan, 15th Hussars

http://www.silverwhistle.co.uk/crimea/louisnolan.html

The controversy that arose almost immediately after the charge lasted for some years. Among other things, it became widely accepted that Lord Cardigan was not even present at the charge, allegedly being on his yacht.

Exactly what Capt. Louis Nolan was trying to do at the start of the charge remains unclear - one theory has it - that he was trying to redirect the brigade's advance, having realised that the order he had conveyed had been misunderstood. Another has it - that he was simply an utter cavalry fanatic, which appears to have been somewhat the contemporary view.

At the charge itself the Light Brigade was some 673 strong -  of which 195 officers and troopers were killed during the engagement - about 500 horses were killed ! Therefore somewhere in the region of 28% of the attacking force were killed. Added to this are those cavalrymen captured or wounded, and a figure of 35 - 40% casualties/losses is probably a reasonable figure.

Since the charge - misdirected though it was - reached and seized its objective, namely the Russian battery - can it therefore be said to have failed? As a cavalry charge in the mid-19th century it was a success. Tactically it achieved little, apart from perhaps making the Russians wary of British cavalry. The reason the charge has received the level of attention it has - both at the time and since - is because it was quite obvious to those there that it was a colossal error. It was for many the embodiement of the catalogue of blunders that characterised the conduct of the Crimean campaign. The British public were kept aware of what was happening through the uncensored reporting of such journalists as William Howard Russell of The Times

( I need to find the source for this ...... I put it in a safe place ! LA  :-\ )

http://crimeantexts.russianwar.co.uk/backgrnd/biogs.html#nolan


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« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 09:06 GMT (UK) »
Trumpeter Martin Lanfried sound charge as was sounded at Balaklava 25th of October 1854, on that very same bugle
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I PUT forward my great-great grandfather, Martin Leonard Lanfried (or Landfrey), regimental number 986, of the 17th Lancers, who rode in the Charge of the Light Brigade in 1854.

He was wounded and his horse killed. On his return to Britain, he was presented to Queen Victoria.

There is evidence to bolster his disputed claim to be the bugler who sounded the charge. The most remarkable is an original Edison wax cylinder recording made of him in 1890 giving a brief introduction and then playing the charge on the original bugle.

Those who want to hear this recording should go to www.gutenberg.org/etext/10204 After the war, he rose to the rank of trumpet-major before leaving the Army in 1885. Throughout his life, however, he continued to play the bugle at many events, and all were billed as being played on the original instrument.

He is buried in Hove cemetery and his gravestone confirms that he was the bugler at the Charge of the Light Brigade. I believe that, for some time, the instrument was kept at Hove Museum.

Paul Nertney, Pavenham, Beds.

The Daily Mail (London, England) (Nov 23, 2004): p.52.

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« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 09:30 GMT (UK) »



Mike, that was unreal...........totally unreal.   The hairs on the back of my neck stood to attention.

Thank you.

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« Reply #89 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 16:24 GMT (UK) »
Trumpeter Martin Lanfried sound charge as was sounded at Balaklava 25th of October 1854, on that very same bugle
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Hard to believe isn't it ?? ..... amazing !!  :)
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