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Re: One for Liverpool Annie
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 17 February 08 14:24 GMT (UK) »


Thanks Mack ... I knew you would know ...... !!  :)

Breaks your heart doesn't it ? ..... he couldn't even keep his medals for consolation ...... wonder where they are now ? ... probably in somebody's collection  :-\

What a life ..... God love him !! ..... too many old soldiers ended up in the workhouse I'm afraid ! nobody caring whether they lived or died ..... makes me very humble reading these stories !

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 18 February 08 17:43 GMT (UK) »

If he was in Pittsburg ... I think this might be him !!

Union New Jersey Volunteers
27th Regiment, New Jersey Infantry

Organized at Camp Frelinghuysen Newark N. J. and mustered in September 3, 1862. Left State for Washington, D. C., October 9, 1862. At East Capital Hill till October 29 and near Alexandria, Va., till December 1. Attached to 2nd Brigade, Casey's Division, Defences of Washington, D. C. to December 1862. 2nd Brigade 1st Division 9th Army Corps Army of the Potomac to March 1863, and Army of the Ohio to June, 1863.

Service

Moved to Fredericksburg December 1-10. Battle of Fredericksburg, Va., December 12-15. "Mud March" January 20-24, 1863. Moved to Newport News, Va., February 11-13, thence to Suffolk Va., March 18 and to Lexington and Nicholasville, Ky., March 19-28. Operations against Pegram's forces till May. Expedition to Monticello April 25-May 8. Monticello May 1. Camp near Somerset till June 3. Moved to Hickman's Bridge thence to Cincinnati Ohio June 15. Volunteered services in Pennsylvania during Lee's invasion of that state after term had expired. On duty at Wheeling, W. Va., and at Pittsburg, Pa. and vicinity till June 26. Moved to Harrisburg Pa. June 26 thence to New Jersey and mustered out July 2 1863.

Regiment lost during service 1 Officer and 93 Enlisted man by disease - Total 94.

John Richardson
Regiment Name 27 New Jersey Infantry
Side Union
Company  L
Soldier's Rank In  Pvt.
Soldier's Rank Out  Pvt.
Film Number M550 roll 19

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Re: One for Liverpool Annie
« Reply #11 on: Monday 18 February 08 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Annie/Mack

Amazing   

Here is your next challenge  ;D - Migky sent me a link to Philips Park cemetery, this is an extract

The cemetery also contains a number of graves of historic interest. These include two survivors of the 1854 Charge of the Light Brigade in the Crimean War, a soldier who received  the Victoria Cross for bravery at the battle of Rorke’s Drift in 1879 (famously dramatised in the 1964 film ‘Zulu’), and a family who perished during the 1915 sinking of the liner Lusitania, an act that would contribute to the United States’ decision to enter the First World War.

I wonder who the other was?

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 18 February 08 19:06 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ken !

I was wondering if it might be our South Lancs boy !! ....... he died in Salford but I don't know where he's buried !!  :-\ but he wasn't in the "Charge "  :-\

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The 19th December was the 150th anniversary of an incident during the Crimean War for which local man William Norman was awarded the Victoria Cross. He was the first Warringtonian to be so honoured.
Born in Bank Quay in 1832, Norman joined the local militia in February 1853. In May 1854, after the outbreak of the Crimean War he transferred into the Royal Fusiliers. On 19 December 1854, Private Norman was on duty alone in a remote ravine when he was confronted by three Russian soldiers who took him prisoner. He managed to turn the tables on them, killing one and capturing two, and as a result was nominated for a Gallantry award. This award was the newly created decoration for valour, The Victoria Cross. On 26 June 1857, in Hyde Park, William Norman and several other recipients received the Victoria Cross from Queen Victoria in what was the first such ever award ceremony. William Norman continued his army career for nearly 11 years, and served as a Corporal in India during the time of the Indian Mutiny.
On returning to Warrington, he worked as a Carter, but retained his military connections by joining the 1st Volunteer Battalion of the South Lancashire Regiment. In later life, he moved to the Salford area where he died on 13 March 1896.

Here's your Rorkes Drift soldier !!

http://www.rorkesdriftvc.com/vc/jones2.htm

Wish I had that book !! maybe it was one of these !!

17th Lancers - Sergeant-Major Nunnerley, Sergeant-Major Williams, Sergeant Butler, Corporal Marshall and Troopers Holland, Pearson and Wright. 11th Hussars - Sergeant Brown and Troopers Glanister* Jamieson and Richardson. 8th Hussars - Sergeant O'Donoghue and Troopers Hogan, McCausland, Mortimer and Palframan. 4th Light Dragoons - Trooper Palin.

* Weaste Cemetery
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Re: One for Liverpool Annie
« Reply #13 on: Monday 18 February 08 19:39 GMT (UK) »

17th Lancers - Sergeant-Major Nunnerley, Sergeant-Major Williams, Sergeant Butler, Corporal Marshall and Troopers Holland, Pearson and Wright. 11th Hussars - Sergeant Brown and Troopers Glanister* Jamieson and Richardson. 8th Hussars - Sergeant O'Donoghue and Troopers Hogan, McCausland, Mortimer and Palframan. 4th Light Dragoons - Trooper Palin.

* Weaste Cemetery

Annie

Have you any first names on these soldiers?

Ken
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« Reply #14 on: Monday 18 February 08 19:59 GMT (UK) »

The short answer is "no" I'm afraid ....  ::) but the author of the book said .......

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I came upon an article in the Manchester Evening News about a show which had been performed at the Free Trade Hall on 21st May 1890,

Wonder if they would be named there !!  :)
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« Reply #15 on: Monday 18 February 08 20:17 GMT (UK) »



Think this is it Ken !! .... just need to look 'em all up !   :)

http://www.chargeofthelightbrigade.com/allmen/indexallmen.html

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 18 February 08 20:46 GMT (UK) »
  :o :'( :o :'( :o :'(
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« Reply #17 on: Monday 18 February 08 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Annie

I have just emailed them - see if they have any idea who the other soldier is

Fingers crossed we may get a photo yet  ;)

Ken

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