One for Liverpool Annie (Continued in Part 2)

[uk2003]

Hi Sandy

We have a bit of a contentious issue in Manchester relating to the burials in council run cemeteries 

Until recently you could go to the research room at Blackley crem to look at all the burials in the council cems, then in there money grabbing ways put them online (see annies link) and closed the reseach room, so now you have to purchase credits to get this information  .

The real sad part of it is a hugh quantity of burials are not online which has been escalated up to the highest level in Manchester council by another rootschatter. The website is so poor you can lose credits without even knowing it which dont help either. 

But apart from that little hiccup we will find this burial site, and if no stone is in place demand one be put up, a presidency has been set in Phillips park because they did that for the Rorkes drift survivor.

Ken

[seahall]

Gosh that is really bad.

Here is a clip from the Manchester City Council page.

If you have a grave reference number (which you are given when you purchase a private grave), cemetery staff can locate a grave whether it is marked or not, because all grave areas are carefully surveyed before being brought into use.

Therefore in Northamptonshire you can ring the office and ask for a marker to be placed in the plot the person is buried in.

Sandy

[uk2003]

Found the section, will go look later this week 

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[liverpool annie]

Woohoo !!  ....... good for you Amigo !! 

That is wonderful !! ..... can't wait now !! 

[uk2003]

Guess what I found 

This is a paupers grave which the headstone has been split in half on purpose by the looks of the cut on the piece laid down.

Looking at the disturbance of the soil around this grave it has not been that long uncovered.

The scroll stonework is that badly worn, no words at all can be made out 

What next Annie?

Regards
Ken

[liverpool annie]

Thank you Ken !!

What a shame !! but how nice ! ..... I must say I'm quite surprised that you found a headstone at all !!  Wonder if the scroll stonework pertained to him even ?? maybe it didn't !!

Wonder if they know anything at the office at Philips ? if they have any paperwork etc ??

It would be really nice to do something special for these old soldiers now you've found them - I'm trying to think what we could do ! what do you think ?? any suggestions ?

Annie 

[uk2003]

Annie

Phillips park does not have an office, it is all controlled by Blackley Crem and like I said earlier they closed the research room and from my experience of them now, they will not help one little bit.

Just tried to find him in the 1871 census, this seems the best fit for him

RG10/4016; Folio: 137; Page: 31

This Richard married into a mature family setting, you will see what I mean if you take a look, is it him ?

Ken

[liverpool annie]

I'm pretty sure that's him !! .... wonder what happened to the marriage if he had to live in the workhouse 20 years later .... wonder if the family did too ??

I bet he was a handsome man .... 6 foot tall .... a bit of a hero .... a little tanned !!  I can just imagine him !!

Wonder if there's any photos in the paper or any write ups about him ??

Annie 

[liverpool annie]

The order that launched the Charge of the Light Brigade, 1854
The Gallant 600

The Charge of the Light Brigade at Balaklava on 25 October 1854 has come to symbolize both the bravery of the British soldier and the incompetence of the Army commanders during the Crimean War (1854-1856). In one of the most notorious military blunders in history, over 260 men out of the 673 who attacked the Russian guns were killed or wounded. The order, written by General Airey and approved by Lord Raglan, the Commander-in-Chief in the East, reads as follows:

‘Lord Raglan wishes the cavalry to advance rapidly to the front, follow the enemy & try to prevent the enemy carrying away the guns. Troop Horse Artillery may accompany. French cavalry is on your left. Immediate. R. Airey’.

Disastrously, Airey’s orders were misunderstood, some of the blame resting with Captain Nolan, who took the message to the Light Brigade. The horsemen charged in the wrong direction straight towards the entire Russian army, rather than towards the guns the enemy had captured earlier. The casualties sustained, along with the loss of 475 horses, meant that the Light Brigade was almost wiped out as an operational force. But the legend of the ‘gallant 600’ remains deeply rooted in the public mind today. It has taken its place in the British popular memory alongside other ‘heroic defeats’ such as Dunkirk in 1940 and Arnhem in 1944.

http://www.national-army-museum.ac.uk/exhibitions/shortVisits/iconic/page12.shtml