Johnstone Family, Chirnside, Berwickshire, Scotland

[Ann Kerr]

Joe

Thanks for the information, I will follow up and see where it leads me.

Ann

[wizard39]

Jean
I think Peter and Elizabeth had another son, Alexander. I have not been able to find any other children.  My e-mail address is <email address removed to prevent misuse, [please use PM facility: moderator> Thanks for any information you may give me.                    

Ann   

im not computer minded but been looking at this website and i think i may be able to help.
My great grandfather was alexander Johnstone who came from Berwichshire to Liverpool. Can you contact me on this email address: tebbrell:btinternet.com or phone me Ian Alexander Johnstone 07708169555 i would be very intestered.

[wizard39]

Hi Ann,

Is this of any use.
Chirnside churchyard pre 1855 (recorded by David C.Cargill in 1970).

Peter Johnstone for 54 yrs. the faithful servant of Messr's Home of Fairlaw d. there 17.8.1886 78yrs. dau. Elizabeth 5.8.1843 3 mths. son George 22.11.43 3 yrs. son Peter 17.9.1854 18 yrs. wife Elizabeth McDougall d. at Fairlaw 23.5.1897 89 yrs.  (88 in D/Reg).

1851 census Coldingham, Fairlaw.

i am not computer minded but i have just been browsing this website and my grandfather Alexander Johnstone came from Berwickshire to Liverpool i would be very interested if you could contact me my girlfreinds email is: (*) or ring me (*)
thank you x
Peter Johnston  H  M  44  Farm Serv.  Berwick, Duns.
Elizabeth  W  M  44  Berwick, Chirnside.
Catherine  Dau.  U  16  Ag. Lab.  Berwick, Coldingham.
Peter  son  U  14  Ag. Lab.  Berwick, Coldingham.
Margaret  Dau.  12  Scholar  Berwick, Coldingham.
Janet  Dau.  6  Scholar  Berwick, Coldingham.
Robert  Son  4  Berwick, Coldingham.

According to IGI  Peter Johnston born 27/2/1808 & bapt. 6/3/1808 Duns, parents William Johnston & Margaret Guthrie. (wants checking)

Alexander b. 2/8/1832 & bapt 9/9/1832 Chirnside (IGI).
If the right one,
1851 census Coldingham, Sunnyside 1. Farm.
Alexander Johnston  Serv. U  18  Farm Serv.  Berwick, Chirnside.
( to William Hood H  U  60  Proprietor ( 317 acres employ 10 lab) )

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[Beckey]

Alexander Johnston isn't in the 1861 census for Coldingham.

Fairlaw Farm - 1 room,1 scholar.

Peter Johnston  H  M  53 Gardener     Bew.,Duns.
Elisabeth           W  M  53                      "     Chirnside.
Robert               S  U  14  Scholar          "     Coldingham.

Grants House Village - 6 rooms.
Margaret Johnston  Serv.  U  22  ( to William Grant,Merchant)  Bew. Cold..

[wizard39]

Akexander Johnstone is the son you said was missing and i just thought i could help. i wasnt askin if he was on the regester just wanted to know if he was in the same family, and i said i was not computer minded so didnt really understand your reply.

[Peggy13]

I have been researching a William Johnston born abt 1817 who married Eliza Fish abt 1840 and had 4 children in Chirnside between 1841 and 1848. Does anyone know where he fits in this family? I don't have the names of his parents but feel it is the same family.

[Forfarian]

Eliza is in the 1851 and 1861 census living with her own family, but her husband is not at home. In 1871 she is described as a widow, so presumably William must have died between 1861 and 1871.

Do you have any more information about them?

William Johnston, 24, carter, is in the household of William Fish in the 1841 census, with Eliza Fish, 24 and Janet Johnston, 1 month old so presumably this is he with his wife and daughter, his parents-in-law and his sister-in-law. Is this where you got his DoB?

[Peggy13]

Hello Forfarian, that is the only information I have about William. I can’t make out Eliza’s  marital status in 1851 but I believe she says she’s a widow in 1861. I have not been able to find an actual marriage record for William and Eliza.
So the one and only time I see William is in 1841.
But I do have a theory. In 1850, there is a William living with George Johnston born 1808 living in New York. William is 33 born in Scotland but the relationship to George is not given. George died Sept 3, 1883. George had married Jeanie Deward/Dow Orr Aug 29, 1835 in Ardrossan, Ayr, Scotland. George, a baker, and Jeanie are found in 1841 in Gorbals, Lanarkshire with children William, Elizabeth F., Hellen, and Jane A. These are the same children in the same birth order that are in Johnstown, Fulton Co. New York  in 1850, along with William age 33. I don’t find William again.
But in 1875, William’s daughter Elizabeth now married to George J. Logan is living next door to George Johnston.
When George died in 1883, his age was 75 years five months 24 days so I work that back to April 10, 1808. I found the birth of a George Johnston, April 24, 1808 in Chirnside and his parents were George Johnston and Elizabeth fish and he named his first daughter Elizabeth fish Johnston. So my theory is that George was born in Chirnside and William is his brother, but I can’t find William’s birth.

[Forfarian]

So are you saying that both George and his brother William married (two different) Eliza(beth) Fishes? And that William left his wife in Scotland and went to the USA with his brother's family?