FRIZELLE and MACNEICE families

[aghadowey]

Please can you tell me how to search the NI census. I'm pretty sure it was Ballycastle, Mayo.

The 1901 census site - http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/1901census/ doesn't seem to have any Frizelle or variations around Ballycastle.
If you are close to a Family Search library (Latter Day Saints (Mormon) Church) you can often access BMD indexes for Ireland so you could get George's birth record. Northern Ireland census would also be available there but I think that is only if you think that George was sent to a MacNeice (Bishop or otherwise there).

Think there's now some confusion here between the Ballycastle in Co, Mayo and Ballycastle in County Antrim.
Northern Ireland was formed at the time of the partition of Ireland in 1920s- at time of 1901 (and 1911 census) Ireland was all one country.
1901 census is available through LDS but you have to know where the person lived to order the microfilm. Most LDS libraries will not have the Irish records in stock so best to check what's available at your local library.

[heywood]

sorry that's me. The Northern Ireland references I am making is because Di thought that George was sent to Bishop MacNeice who was bishop of Down. But now there is a possibility that the time  sequences are out.
That's why I initially queried re the two Ballycastles.
It now transpires that Ballycastle Mayo is the right one.

I am wrong though in thinking that the records are separate now- the census was as you say for the whole of Ireland and therefore has not been separated over the years?
Apologies.

[heywood]

Ancestry has references to RIC-
Frederick J Frizelle 19 yrs birthplace Mayo enlisted 1901/ died 1922 and gives a Film reference no.

http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Forces/N.%20Ireland-other/N.Ireland_1800-1922.htm
shows a Sgt Frederick J Frizelle killed 1922 in Londonderry. If it's the same as the above one he the Mayo born one.

But I am getting far from Di's orignial query re MacNeice/Frizelle.

[aghadowey]

1901 census for all Ireland available through LDS libraries (also 1911 if you are not in UK). National Archives in Dublin is putting 1911 (and then 1901) online for all Ireland eventually- started with Dublin 1911 in Dec.2007. See their website for further details, list of order census records will be added, etc. (County Mayo is 10th on the list):
www.census.nationalarchives.ie
Some records for the six counties of Northern Ireland are at PRONI, Belfast (they have Ulster Covenant and partial Wills index online now).

[didowells]

Hi - I'm back.  Have been trying to get myself sorted out with these Frizelles and where they were born.  Unfortunately we don't live near an LDS Library.

As already pointed out, on the IGI we have:

John Frizelle birth about 1855 of Sligo married Caroline Mc Ness about 1878 Sligo
William Robert Frizelle born 16 Oct 1879 Ballina Sligo (parents John & Caroline)
A Frizelle born 1890 Ballycastle, Mayo (parent John H)

My George Henry Herbert Frizelle was born about 1886 Ballina, Co Mayo

I have two CWGC records:

A Frizelle son of John H died 1916 aged 26
William Robert son of Robert died 1918 aged 43 (so he can't be the same William Robert but must be related!)

On George's pension papers (?1904) it says his father was John of The Glen, Ballycastle, Co Mayo.  Two brothers, William of ? England and Fred (?Alfred) RIC Belfast.

I think I am going to have to call it a day regarding these people.  Unfortunately I have left it too late to ask any relatives!  I have scoured the web for reference to MacNeice - there is an awful lot about Louise but nothing very substantial about his family.

Thank you very much to all of you that have tried to help.
Di

[Jennie Frizelle]

Hi,

Just wondering if you're still working on any of this or have left it so? I'm in Wexford and am doing a lot of research lately, and while I can't see a connection between any of the Frizelles you have named and what I have on my own family tree, maybe there is something that I'm overlooking.

I've set up a website, www.frizellefamilytree.com, where I've made available a lot of what I've found out. If you would like to have a look, maybe we could be some help to each other.

All the best,
Jennie.