FRIZELLE and MACNEICE families

[didowells]

Please has anyone any information on either of the above families?  I have a John Frizelle of Ballycastle Co Mayo married to a Caroline Matilda MacNeice.  I am led to believe that their son George was farmed out when his mother died to a Bishop MacNeice.  Any info would be welcome or ideas as where to search.
Di

[aghadowey]

As far as I know Frizelle (various spellings) is supposed to be a French Huguenot name.
The information that might be available to search in Ireland depends on the dates involved. Any idea when George was born, etc.?

[heywood]

This caught my interest because of Louis MacNeice - found this

http://www.artscouncil-ni.org/departs/all/report/MacNeice%20House%20doc.pdf

his father was Bishop MacNeice and originated in West of Ireland

[didowells]

Hi
George Frizelle was born about 1886.  When he was old enough he enlisted in the Royal Engineers and fought in WW1.  I have just downloaded his pension records.  I think his father and at least one of his brothers served in the RIC.  I have found quite a lot on the web about Louis MacNeice but not much about his parents.  Didn't know Frizelle was a Huguenot name.

[heywood]

was it definitely Ballycastle, Mayo and not Ballycastle Antrim. Where was George born - or where did Caroline die?
I would say you need to check censuses in Northern Ireland if possible if you think that's where he was sent to.
MacNeice became Bishop much later than your dates so it is perhaps not quite so.

[heywood]

Hello Di,
I have seen the record and have been searhing to no avail!
Interested too because Ballycastle is just a few miles from my dad's place in Mayo.
The record says Cloughton, Ballina but I can't find a reference to that anywhere. There's a Cloghan.

[didowells]

Looks like my timing is a bit out.  Please can you tell me how to search the NI census.  I'm pretty sure it was Ballycastle, Mayo.  Sorry - don't know when Caroline died.  I will keep looking.
Di

[heywood]

As I said looking at his WW1 record he enlisted in Mayo.

Family Search (IGI) has a submission by a church member for A Frizelle b 1890 - father John H Frizelle, Ballycastle.

http://www.mayomemorialpeacepark.org/the_wall/wall3.html
has two Frizelles from WW1 who I thought may be yours.  Commonwealth Graves site has
William Robert Frizelle born around 1875 -father is Robert of The Glen Ballycastle- surely related?
A Frizelle born 1890 - father -John H Frizelle, Ballinglen Ballycastle.
(same person as IGI) so that looks promising.

The 1901 census site - http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/1901census/ doesn't seem to have any Frizelle or variations around Ballycastle.

I have looked for Church of Ireland Ballycastle- much of Irish records is sparse at the best of times but I can't find any reference online.

If you are close to a Family Search library (Latter Day Saints (Mormon) Church) you can often access BMD indexes for Ireland so you could get George's birth record. Northern Ireland census would also be available there but I think that is only if you think that George was sent to a MacNeice (Bishop or otherwise there).
Will keep thinking.

[heywood]

Ancestry has references to RIC-
Frederick J Frizelle 19 yrs birthplace Mayo enlisted 1901/ died 1922 and gives a Film reference no.
There are a couple more born Sligo.

Leitrim Roscommon 1901 census site has
George 34 yrs (wrong age for yours)  sgt RIC in Roscommon and family (a George born Sligo enlisted 1885 aged 19 yrs)
William Frizelle 77 yrs ex sgt RIC with family in Sligo. Thsi chap has a grandson Archibald 11 yrs born Mayo which may tie in with Archibald 18 yrs enlisting in 1877 and Wm R 17 rys enlisting in 1881 - both Sligo - perhaps sons of William snr.

I'm getting confused now!