Cleughbrae , mouswald

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yes i think so probably a john in there somewhere as well csc

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also benjamins wifes name was irving as was williams first wife  am i looking too far csc

[Kerr Aust]

This sounds great.  If we can find a birth for one of them to get parents names we may have our founding Kerr family for the area.  That would start making Kerr USA's idea of moving beyond the 1700s more feasible.  On names, you'll probably not be surprised to find that once Joseph came to Australia he followed the family tradition and had Martha, Mary, Thomas, John, Joseph also Annie but that was his wife's name.  The only name we don't seem to have continued here is James.

I've just been completely sidetracked by Robert Hutchison Kerr.  If I can prove he is the youngest son of Thomas Kerr and Mary Hutchison then these photos and in memoriam notes I have are him sending the family news and photos to his brother Joseph in Australia, which I love the idea of!  I've just ordered his death cert to see.  Also he moved to Cheshire and seems to have done well from himself as his wife's in memoriam note says wife of R.H. Kerr of Spark Hall, Stretton, Near Warrington. 

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have you seen any birth certs for thomas/marys children  csc

[Kerr Aust]

I got the info from my aunt and she concentrated on the direct line so I must admit I haven't actually seen any of the original birth details.  They were apparently all born at Elizafield and the date info I have is
John b 1825 - ?
Martha 1828 - 1850 Typhus
Margaret 1830 - 1849 Typhus
Joseph 1830 - 1897 Died Australia
Janet 1838 - ?
Annie 1842 - 1849 Typhus
Robert 1846 - ?  (if this is Robert Hutchison Kerr he died in 1890)
Mary 1848 - ?
Martha, Margaret, Annie and their mother Mary all died of typhus either the last couple of weeks of Dec 1849 or the first couple of weeks of Jan 1850.  They are all on the same page in the OPR.  Their grandfather James died on 24 Jan so it must have been a truly horrifying time for everyone.

[Kerr Aust]

Does anyone know who owned Elizafield and the other land that our ancestors farmed?  I've been trying to get a feel for the period as I thought it would help us in finding other records that might connect some of the missing dots.  Was there a laird?

There seems to have been a major famine in 1690s although the book I read said Dumfriesshire wasn't as badly off, then there were the Jacobites cropping up every couple of years......

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griersons appear to be the big landowners we might be able to find out about elizafield  every time i pass the sign post i wonder where granny was born there would probably be an assortment of old cottages  there are a lot of new bungalows around there now further along the road at wath where my francis died there used to be old cottages when i was a child in the 50s wish i had paid attention was not interested then csc

[stoop]

Good afternoon all following the Kerrs of the Mouswald area. Relating first to the children of George Kerr and Mary Tweedie that is Aggie born in 1785 , Janet born 1790,Jean born 1798, Margaret b. 1792, Martha born in 1785, Mary born 1795 I know that William married Agnes Henry but is anyone knowledgable of whom the girls married or when they died. Thanking you stoop.

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i think aggy will be the agnes who died at elizafield 1950 aged 65  have you any idea what the post 1855 inscriptions say  csc