Cleughbrae , mouswald

[stoop]

Hi csc, Would you happen to know when the first janet Kerr(Tweedie) died?. Just supposing that Janet Tweedie was the first wife of James Kerr with their 4 known children and she died in about 1753 then he married Martha Moffat. Suppose further that the first Rachel died in infancy and when James remarried they named another baby girl Rachel, born only 10 years later. Rachel as a name as far Iam aware is not used until Robert Kerr names his daughter Rachel. It is difficult to consider that back in the very early 18th. century there were two James Kerr born around 1720 in or near Collin , it would mean that there were two Kerr families. I would appreciate your thoughts regarding this scenario. regards stoop.

[csc]

rachel is fairly unusual and i would think they would be related there are a few tweedies related to the kerrs and i have wondered if some of them are related it would not be unusual to name 2 chidren the same name after 1 died i have several in my charlton side where this has happened  christeen

[csc]

rachel is obviously an important and special name to james kerr would not surprise me if it was his mothers name a very pretty feminine name different from the usual janets and marys  csc

[stoop]

I do agree it symbolises something special, if only we can establish the link between both Rachels. One other research method will be to trawl through memorial inscriptions around the early and middle 18th. century. Regards stoop.

[csc]

kerr marriage  10 12 1833 james kerr and sarah pattie were proclaimed on the 8th and married on the 10th december 1833        children agnes 03 02 1837 troqueer   george 15 09 1849 terregles james 11 06 1847 troqueer jane 07 11 1843 mouswald john 03 09 1854 terregles martha 05 01 1852 terregles mary 09 01 1839 troqueer sarah 28 12 1842 troqueer thomas 28 04 1845 troqueer william 29 12 1840 troqueer     death james kerr farmer married to sarah phillips pattie november 18th 1874 63 yeards father thomas kerr farmer dec. mother mary kerr m/s slater  cancer of the face william kerr son present nov20th 1874     terregles schoolhouse john a carse registrar    1877 june 6th sarah phillips kerr widow of james kerr farmer 65 years father william pattie farmer dec. mother agnes pattie m/s dickie     congestion of the liver one month general debility   james kerr son st helens lancashire    csc

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ontario canada marriages     george kerr 24 father james kerr mothers name sarah pattie kerr spouse name jessie mcburnie spouse mother jane ferguson mcburnie marriage 22aug 1873 york occupation carpenter  jessie mcburnie 23 dumfries scotland james and jane ferguson mcburnie  canada  death george kerr dec.17th 1917 66 years  cancer of the tongue 1 year occupation farmer married father thomas kerr witness  looks like mm kerr monk road    mount pleasant cemetery   south crosby  csc

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john kerr age 16  1871 grocers app     1891 grocer cargenbridge wife margaret 35 john 36 james 6 jane 4 hugh 2 sarah 5 months    1901   grocer shopman cargenbridge john 46 margaret 45 james 16 jane 14 hugh wallace kerr 12 sarah 10 david john 8  margaret 5                 the name wallace with kerrs again    csc

[stoop]

Hi csc, John Kerr and Mrgaret Wallace were my great grandparents, parents of my grandfather Hugh Wallace Kerr who married my grandmother Ada Smith who was born in Keighley, Yorkshire. Referring to your posting before about the children of my g.g. grandparents James Kerr and Sarah Pattie in particular George who was born in 1849, I cannot think why I ldo not have a record of him, I have concerning all the others. Therefore I will add all the details you have given me. Do you have information regarding all the other children if not I will inform you with what I have. Regards stoop.

[csc]

i dont have much about them but if you send what you have i might pick up something i was looking at that family as i know some of the places mentioned and i think some kerrs are in terregles churchyard right behind the old school which is now ajoiners place i am at terregles quite often is newbridge farmhouse on the hardthorn road i got georges birth from scotlands people and the canada one from ancestry csc