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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #72 on: Tuesday 24 February 09 11:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi csc, I too would like to make a connection. I was given a list of Kerrs who are buried at Torthorwald by Kama including James Kerr late of Rigghead d. 24/9/1813 aged 42 presumably born in 1771. Another James of Rigghead was the father of Mary Kerr d. 5/1/1825 aged 76 birth year 1749. It would seem probable that the two Jatedames are related, likely grandson and grandfather and that Mary was an aunt of James the younger. This does not answer your question, whether Rigghead and Cleughbrae Kerrs are related but it is important to establish how the Kerrs in Torthorwald graveyard relate to the rest. Ihave the names and details of about twenty people buried in Torthorwald should you want them. Regards stoop.

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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #73 on: Tuesday 24 February 09 11:32 GMT (UK) »
yes thanks that might be helpful the reason i am wondering about righead is because of william kerr the miller who married martha mccall i could not find him on the mouswald census 1841 but he could not have been far away he got married 1842 there is a william at righead correct age describes as ag lab i was out there on sunday and you could walk it quite easy the graves in the churchyard are looking ok one of them is getting hidden by bushes i dont know how i did not notice francis granny sussanah beside him but i was only thinking kerrs and another thing while i have been searching for my charltons and sparks in the cumberland site what o lot of kerrs born scotland around longtown  might be where your ancestor went
DUMFRIES. KERR,DICKSON,BELL,HETHERINGTON,HILL
CUMBERLAND, CHARLTON,YOUNG,SPARKS,HEWITT,IRELAND. 
ORKNEY,CURSITER,DREVER,PEACE,COOPER,    
FAIR ISLE, MALCOLMSON,LESLIE.

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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #74 on: Tuesday 24 February 09 12:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi csc Iwill give them to you in no particular order.                                         
 Elsbeth Kerr spouse to William Houston d. 22/10/1837 aged 59
 George Kerr d. 18/3/1808 aged 76,Mary Kerrd.March 1776 aged 6months ,Mary aged 5 d.March 1781, Joseph d .aged 4 and Mary Houston his grandchild.

Samuel Kerr of Carthwood d. 2/2/1766 aged 47 and son d . in infancy

Robert Kerr of Carthwood d. 20/3/1789 aged 74

Janet Kerr d. 19/4/1823 aged 78

William Kerr of Mid Dargavel d. 8/10/1841 aged 47, William Kerr his son d. 21/7/1845 aged 15, Thomas his son d. 25/2/1839 aged 5, Mary 23/7/1850 aged 30

 Janet Kerr wife of Walter Hogg d. 28/5/1809 aged 30, George Kerr d. 29/12/1831 aged 43, Isabella Kerr his daughter d. 8/9/1832 aged 17 months

Mary Kerr relict of John Burnet farmer d. at Woodlands 4/2/1820

Jean Kerr daughter of John Kerr an Agnes Johnstone d. 25/5/1838 aged 1 year 3 months

Joanna Kerr daughter of George Kerr d. at Rockhall Lodge 17/2/1849 aged 7 and his daughter Jane d. 11/3/1851 aged 5 weeks above George d. 15/12/1855 aged 40

 George Kerr son of James Kerr d. Lochmaben 27/7/1851 aged 17

 Mary Kerr d. 27/11/1857

 Ann Kerr d. 1/12/1848 aged69

Edward Kerr d. 8/7/1855 aged 5 Janet and Elizabeth died in infancy, children of Andrew Kerr joiner in Dumfries

 James Kerr, feuer in Rosedale d. 20/9/1847 aged 73, James his son d. 26/12/1829 aged 27, Sarah his daughter d. 21/11/1840 aged 24, Andrew d. 20/5/1851 aged 40, Janet Kerr his wife d. 11/3/1854 aged 72

 Gavin Kerr d. 21/12/1827 aged 28, Janet his daughter d. in 1832 aged 6

Margaret Kerr d. 14/2/1869 aged 70

 Ann Kerr d. 27/9/1862 aged 80

 Jessie Kerr d. 4/8/1845 daughter of William she was 19 William d. 12/6/1848 aged 51

 Margaret Kerr d. 8/8/1843 aged 69

George Kerr farmer d. 8/5/1812 aged 64

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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #75 on: Tuesday 24 February 09 12:24 GMT (UK) »
i know that the rockhall lodge george is related to cleuchbrae i have loked at a lot of his paticulars i will fish them out when i come from work and george kerr farmer 1812 is one of the dalton ones i have his marriage 1797 somewhere csc
DUMFRIES. KERR,DICKSON,BELL,HETHERINGTON,HILL
CUMBERLAND, CHARLTON,YOUNG,SPARKS,HEWITT,IRELAND. 
ORKNEY,CURSITER,DREVER,PEACE,COOPER,    
FAIR ISLE, MALCOLMSON,LESLIE.


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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 06:43 GMT (UK) »
george kerr  death gamekeeper 40 years about 2 years in mouswald 20 years torthorwad father william kerr farmer dec. mother margaret kerr m/s armstrong dec wife jane fisher children catrine15 joanna died 1849 william 12 robert 10 margaret 8 jane 5weeks died 1850 joseph 4 james 2 time of death 1hr 45minsam at rockhall lodge parish of torthorwald dec.15th tuberculosis of the chest  william kerr son witness thomas rome registrar mouswald csc
DUMFRIES. KERR,DICKSON,BELL,HETHERINGTON,HILL
CUMBERLAND, CHARLTON,YOUNG,SPARKS,HEWITT,IRELAND. 
ORKNEY,CURSITER,DREVER,PEACE,COOPER,    
FAIR ISLE, MALCOLMSON,LESLIE.

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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #77 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 06:59 GMT (UK) »
kerr marriage annan 1805 thomas kerr in milnfield servant to william nelson esq of newbie and mary slater in the parish of urr were lawfully married csc
DUMFRIES. KERR,DICKSON,BELL,HETHERINGTON,HILL
CUMBERLAND, CHARLTON,YOUNG,SPARKS,HEWITT,IRELAND. 
ORKNEY,CURSITER,DREVER,PEACE,COOPER,    
FAIR ISLE, MALCOLMSON,LESLIE.

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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #78 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 16:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi csc, regarding Kerr who was married at Milnfield Annan in 1805 he was my g.g.g. grandfather Thomas Ker( with one r). After the owner of the estate went bankrupt Thomas acquired a farm at the Stoop he died in 1829, curiously his will was dated 1838. His wife Mary Slater had the following children Mary born in Annan 1806, Jean Millar born in Annan1807, James born 1811 in Annan, George born 1817 and Martha born at the Stoop in 1820. I have accumulated lots of information about this family group. regards stoop.

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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #79 on: Thursday 26 February 09 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi csc ref. Rockhall Lodge George I am interested in the particulars of him in relationship to Cleughbrae thanks stoop.

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« Reply #80 on: Friday 27 February 09 07:51 GMT (UK) »
i have found 3 children for william and margaret in mouswald mary 1814 in saturnhirst william 1813 robert 1820 not foung george birth only 1 r in kerr in these also in dumfries same parent names catherine 1834 jean 1826 john lorimer 1825 margaret1822 thomas 1830 william again 1828 i think the robert might be mid dargavel 1851 he has a sister ann born mouswald in 1851 also margaret kerr servant 22 born torthorwald there seems to  be 2 john lorimers the other ones parents thomas kerr and janet johnstone in kirkcudbrightshire thomas and william are probably brothers their mothers name could be lorimer do you know where saturnhirst was csc
DUMFRIES. KERR,DICKSON,BELL,HETHERINGTON,HILL
CUMBERLAND, CHARLTON,YOUNG,SPARKS,HEWITT,IRELAND. 
ORKNEY,CURSITER,DREVER,PEACE,COOPER,    
FAIR ISLE, MALCOLMSON,LESLIE.