Cleughbrae , mouswald

[stoop]

Good evening csc, I wish I could be of more use, I feel I am on a seperate loop at the moment. My William  was brother to James and his wife Martha Moffat. I have William dying on 26/7/1800, his first wife was Agnes Irving b. 1729 d. 28/3/1769, his second wife was Mary Dickson b. 8/8/1825. They had at least two children William b. 1784 d. 30/4/1824, then there was Joseph b. 1774 d.16/7/1847 he was married to a Janet Kerr b.1772 d.11/5/1842. There is another William Kerr described as miller at Cleughbrae Mill he was born in 1789 and d. Dec. 1845, I do not know who he was related to . U nfortunately I cannot shed any light on the Dickson questions. There was a George born in Mouswald around the time of James and William looks as if he could be another brother, Ihave details about him somewhere that I will dig out and e mail , hopefully the pieces might begin to fit. Regards stoop.

[csc]

that might be my george a lot of this family both kerrs and dicksons are related i thought the 2 marys might be related aunt and neice if the daughter of david and susan is my relative it means francis is lying not far away from his granny another thing i noticed the relatives of janet kerr laneside were called blackstock jacob dicksons 2 wifes were both blacksocks and ihave a paper among  my pile relating to a marriage mary kerr banks and a blackstock also jean kerr daughter of john deceased dalton was married to patrick blackstock we will be like the royal family all married to each others relations another thing i see you are in liverpool that is where benjamin bell brother of francis wife went with his mother in law jean tweedie born topmuir and his wife janet davidson you never know who is going to pop up next csc

[csc]

did you find robert kerr yet i see at one time you were looking at crosscanonby i have a post on the cumberland site looking for my cumberland grandfathers relations charlton and sparks family his relations were at crosscanonby my grandads brother jacob charlton worked there my grandad was working at limekilns near brydekirk  when he married granny agnes kerr what is also strange is that they both had hetherington relations csc

[stoop]

I selected Cumberland because it is just across the Solway and thought that it was possible that Robert and his daughter Rachel were still in touch with their family. Roberts sister Rachel unfortunately in her will does not name his wife, I find that curious as she does name other spouses. I am also thinking of Roberts choice of name for his daughter, perhaps there is a dark answer. To date I have not been able to trace his wife. Regards stoop.

[csc]

hi cleuchbrae people one of you asked me how sure i was about which mary dickson was my relative and i was not sure so i fished out all my piecec of paper and you look to be right i have been looking at the wrong one its a case of several heads better than one i have been looking at mary dickson daughter of david and sussana johnstone and have found a connection marys neice susan dickson daughter of her brother adam is working in the same house in moffat in 1861 as jessie harkness daughter of adam harkness and our susan kerr is that likely to be a coincidence  and another jacob dickson cant be marys brother as he is too young with his wife janet blackstock have a son with thr name francis henderson same as my francis so this mary has a large family of siblings lots of boys with biblical names and lots of sussanas we wondered where susans name came fron as we have only known about her for a short time so now what does anybody know about david and sussana csc

[csc]

does anyone know where the mill was at mouswald i know about the one at mouswald grange but were there any others some of the kerrs occupations seem to be millers csc

[csc]

to all mouswald people i am now looking for the family of sussanah johnstone and david dickson john 1754 jacob 1756 james 1758 janet 1762 oswald 1765 abraham 1767 adam1772 who was married to janet maxwell and had children born at kirkbean mary 1774 born kirkfield ans sussanah 1777 i have found definite links to them and although i have been to my francis grave several timea i did not pay attention to the stone at his left side sussanah and david so he is nly a few inches from his grandmother have not found george kerr yet might have a look at torthorwald next csc

[mickdickson]

Hi csc,

Glad you have been able to narrow things down to David and Susannah, sorry I haven't been answering your other questions as I have not had time really. Mmmm kirkbean?  one of my Dickson lines lived there as well but in the late 19th C at Gillhead.  Some of their names are on the Kirkbean War Memorials for dying and surviving WWI.

As to Mouswald Mill, no idea but have had Griersons living there in the 19th C... Richard Grierson and Janet Dickson and family.

I also have connections to Torthorwald as well, maybe one day we will discover that our Dicksons are connected as well.

[csc]

does anyone know if there is a connection between kerrs righead and kerrs cleuchbrae i had a look at the weekend and noticed righead is only a short distance from elizafield and not far from mouswald csc