Cleughbrae , mouswald

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george kerr 1812 is butterthwaite i have a marriage for him 1797 torthorwald his wife was from kirkmichael he was quite old to be getting married i wonder if she was his second wife csc

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Hi csc , I know I am going off at a tangent but trying to establish links with your mentioned Kerrs. Incidentally I do not think it matters wh I ether Kerr is with one r or two as they frequently added the second r. Can I mention yet another George this on was born in 1761 to James Kerr and Martha Moffat he married Mary Tweedie who was born in 1755. George died in Feb. 1826 and Mary in 1838. He had farmed at Mouswald Banks and died at Racks, she died in Elizafield. One of their sons was William who was born about 1787 and died at Birset in December 1834 he was married to Agnes Henry whowas born around 1786 she died at Birset in August 1853 William and Agnes also had a daughter named Agnes.They also had a son George who was classified in the terms of the day as a pauper idiot, I looked for details of his death and initially could not trace his death in 1862 but found it recorded in 1864 he died at the age of 54 in a Dumfries asylum. George had been born in Irongray and Agnes in Johnston. Next to Agnes at Birset on the 1851 census is James Kerr and his wife Grace also addressed as Birset, Butterthwat is very near so everyone must have been related , nearly forgot James was married in 1849 to Grace but who was his first wife?. regards stoop.

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james at birsets first wife was janet in the 1841 census  i have got their son josephs death cert agnes is mother of george and james so they are brothers i  also have some stuff for agnes henry i will get it out tomorrow i dont know why all the kerrs named their children the same names when you find something different you get a surprise it must have been awful for georges mum the descriptions of ill children and illegitimate are awful we would not give it a second thought now csc

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my mary dickson is born 1774 kirkfield so george is slightly older or younger i think he died before her and i dont think he was too far away csc

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2more kerrs husband and wife parish of holywood 1898 david kerr labourer  widower of mary kerr sept 16th age 88 years father james kerr farmer dec. mother margaret kerr m/s wallace old age and debility witness david kerr nephew newbridge farm terregles

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1892 parish of holywood mary kerr married to david kerr ploughman august 11th  gateside fatherthomas kerr farmer dec. mother mary kerr m/s slater dec.cerebal------ 12 days david kerr husband present aug 13th wm wilson registrar

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parish of torthorwald1896 joseph kerr farmer married to mary anderson sept 22nd 1896 rosedale aged 73 years father james kerr farmer dec.janet kerr m/s johnstone gangrene of the foot i month witness david  kerr son csc

[stoop]

Hi csc Mary married David quite late in life and both worked on the farm of Mary Ker(  frusSlater). They never had children. Doweel was a farm on the Goldilea estate near Cargenbridge, it is a lovely spot. I have as yet not been able to find any records for Davids father and mother, frustrating as it a Kerr marrying a Kerr. An interesting coincidence for me concerns the name Margaret Wallace first as the mother of David Kerr, she Ithink was born about 1790 and the second Margaret Wallace was my great grandmother, husband of John Kerr, she was born in 1856. regars stoop.

[stoop]

Hi again csc, you probably know that James Kerr was a son of John Kerr and Jean Tweedie. regards stoop.