Cleughbrae , mouswald

[csc]

hi mick do you know anything about jacob dickson and janet blackstock they also had son named francis henderson blackstock nearly the same age as my francis henderson kerr have you seen the name henderson on any other dicksons i cant find it on the kerrs thanks csc

[csc]

hi mick i see jacob dickson had 2 wifes both with the surname blackstock might be cousins also his francis died as a baby what do you think of the possibility of a sister calling her baby the same name also there is a jean kerr with a husband patrick blackstock who lived at woodside patrick was a tailor in dumfries she was the daughter of john kerr in dalton on her marriage certificate mary and georges other son robert also had middle name henderson csc

[KAMA]

Hi csc,

Just a note about Henderson/Kerr.  my tree has Catherine Henderson of Torthorwald marrying John Kerr(c1815-1879) in Mouswald with children Joseph 1850, Thomas 1853, Elizabeth 1854, Mary 1855, Janet 1857, Isabella 1864 & Joseph 1867.  They lived in Mouswald and family headstone is in the churchyard there.  Just wondered if this was the connection you were looking for!
John was farmer at Brocklehurst & Grennan.

Kama

[csc]

thats odd i looked at that grave when i was at mouswald it is approx 3 yards from my francis it says john kerr farmer in grennan dalry formerly of brocklehurst 1879 i think a lot of these kerrs who are lying together are related thanks csc

[mickdickson]

Hi csc,

As to Jacob D and the Blackstocks, maybe sisters? I only have their marriage dates and a son Joseph for Jacob and Janet.  Haven't gone into them yet as I haven't a father for Jacob. Was the sons name Francis Henderson Blackstock Dickson? I haven't seen many with two middle names in here or was it not a Dickson.

The only Dickson Henderson marriage I've seen was a William D and Agnes H in 1855,  Torthorwald, they had a Jane, William and a Robert as far as I know all born in Torthorwald.  Agnes was, I believe, the dau. of Robert Henderson farm servant of Torthorwald Village. Willam D may be a Land Measurer from Mouswald Village as there is only one William D in both parishes in 1851, however he was 38 in 1851 while Agnes was 15 in 1851. So I may have the wrong William altogether.

Mick

[mickdickson]

Hi Maggie,

As to your Jonah confusion, I have Jonah b 1787 marrying Janet Dickson, son of Jonah N and Ann Carruthers.  Jonah born 1795 married Margaret Dickson. Jonah 1795 was son of John N and Mary Ann Smith. Both Jonah (1787 & 1795) were grandsons pf Benjamin N and Janet Friend.  I have these Nicholsons in my tree due to some distant connection and as I tend to add whole families in of spousal lines I went over board plus the two Dicksons sparked my interest. One connection is Ann N dau of Jonah & Janet married James Grierson son of William G and Jean Charteris whose other son Richard married  Janet Dickson elder sister of my 2G Grandfather Jacob Dickson. See how far I go.

I hadn't a spouse for Christopher 1781, so now I have, thanks, any other info on that line would be good as I have connections to the Jardines as well, pm me if you like

Cheers
Mick

[kojak]

Hi All,

csc - I see you made mention to a property called Holmains (your spelling Holemains).  Is it in Dalton Parish per chance?

If it is, I know where it stands and I have lots of photos.  My finacee and I visited south west scotland last year and as it was my old stomping ground, we walked over the hills and Holmains was one of a few ruinous/abandoned properties found in the dumfriesshire countryside.

If it is the same Holmains, which isnt far from the birset incidentally, I can provide you with some pictures if you would like.

Kojak

 

[Maggie.]

Hi Maggie,

As to your Jonah confusion, I have Jonah b 1787 marrying Janet Dickson, son of Jonah N and Ann Carruthers.  Jonah born 1795 married Margaret Dickson. Jonah 1795 was son of John N and Mary Ann Smith. Both Jonah (1787 & 1795) were grandsons pf Benjamin N and Janet Friend.  I have these Nicholsons in my tree due to some distant connection and as I tend to add whole families in of spousal lines I went over board plus the two Dicksons sparked my interest. One connection is Ann N dau of Jonah & Janet married James Grierson son of William G and Jean Charteris whose other son Richard married  Janet Dickson elder sister of my 2G Grandfather Jacob Dickson. See how far I go.

I hadn't a spouse for Christopher 1781, so now I have, thanks, any other info on that line would be good as I have connections to the Jardines as well, pm me if you like

Cheers
Mick

Hi Mike,

Thank you for getting back to me on this.  The details I have correspond with yours in every respect except that I have Benjamin N. married to Janet Irving (not Friend) but to be honest I don't know where I have got that information from as it is research done many years ago.  I also have the will of Jonah N., wife of Janet in which mention is made of James Grierson and Ann Nicholson.

I will PM you then it doesn't get confusing on here.

Maggie

[csc]

hi stoop and mick doyou have any idea if the mary dickson married to william kerr could be the sister of david dickson married to sussanah johnstone we have  been looking at david and sussanahs daughter mary and i think we have been looking at the wrong mary this pairs daughter fits the bill mary had her daughter janet at glebe park where janet dickson lived we thought that might be her aunt but it is likely her older sister our mary also had a daughter susan not found her birth but have her death our lot also had children at pyehills where george kerr and tabithas family were we might be nearer to solving the puzzle i see o lot of dicksons related in ruthwell cemetery csc