Cleughbrae , mouswald

[stoop]

Hi csc just to identify Mary Kerr is the daughter of Mary Kerr(Slater) and David is the son of James Kerr farmer in Holywood regards stoop.

[csc]

hi stoop do you have any background for mary slaters husband i see they were married annan there is a big family of kerrs and pools at howes annan  csc

[stoop]

Evening csc , the husband of Mary Slater was Thomas Kerr born 19/12/1773 in Collin. They married in January 1805 in Annan, they lived in Milnfield, information gleaned was that Mary lived with her mother and father in Milnfield. Thomas was a servant in the service of William Neilson Esq. of Newbie an estate down on the Solway. I do not know how he secured employment there but he remained there having a number of children. When Neilson went bankrupt Thomas was able to move to the Stoop and rent a farm in 1841 it was described as a settlement(fermtoun). I would dearly lovto locate as I was born and brought up in Greenbrae Loaning, Stoop. Iam writing a letter to Annan library to ask them if they have any records of the estate around the time that Thomas was working there. They might reveal what his duties were . Thomas died in 1829 at the age of 56, he is buried in Mouswald kirkyard. Why do you think his will was not read until 1838?.

His children were Mary b. 19/1/1806 in Annan, Jean Millar b. 27/7/1807 Annan, James b. 6/7/1811 in Annan, followed by George on the 14/9/1817 in Annan finally Martha who was b. on the26/8/1820 at the Stoop. Mary Kerr(Slater) lived until 12/10/1878 she died at Doweel.

Regarding the Pattie family Ihave been trying to connect William Pattie and Agnes Dickie tothe other Pattie people at Mouswald. Regards stoop.

[csc]

it says on the birth for thomas mary and rachel born in collin no mothers name  i think they must have been born in the village as on the other births on the records it names the place no occupation listed for the father do you know if there were any other children the father has to be born 1720ish i wonder if he originated from collin might be dumfries the town might have not been very pleasant in those days  csc

[csc]

do you know if mary slater and her husbands children had any middle names you might get their grandmothers surname from there  csc

[stoop]

Evening csc, can I address the two previous postings of yours. I do think that it was James Kerr and Martha Moffat that lived at Rigghead Collin. According to their birth records the children were born in Collin. James was born around 1718 and died 3/12/1789 at Cleughbrae, Martha Moffat his wife was born 10/6/1728 and died 11/1/1803 at Mouswald Banks. They had the following children, Mary 1749, Robert 15/9/1754, John 1756, Joseph 17/5/1768 he died in infancy, Rachel 1 George 17616/6/1762 died 1832 at Cleughbrae, died 20/2/1826 at Racks, Jannet born 1753 died March 1811, James was born in 1771 died 24/11/1850 at Elizafield, Thoma was born 19/12/1773 and died 25/3/1829 at the stoop. There were two children born previously in Collin Rachel in 1753 and Thomas in 1753 I think that these two children died perhaps in infancy and then they were renamed later. Last but not least relating to the children of Thomas Kerr and Mary Slater, somewhere I have the parents of Mary and just to finish the father of Thomas was James Kerr and Martha Moffat.

[csc]

a lot of the farmers in mouswald andarea are described as tenant farmers so i suppose there would be a big landowner around who would maybe reside in london half the year and have a factor to see to the lettings i wonder if it would be brocklehurst or comlongan csc

[stoop]

Morning csc , how do we go about finding out who their landlords were?. I will contact Erica Johnson , archivist at the library. Did Bucleugh have estates there as well as Lag?. regards stoop.

[csc]

i wonder whether the archives in burns street or the library would have any info i have a couple of days off at the end of the month i will go and ask  christeen