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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #9 on: Monday 11 February 08 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Did she ever marry a Mr Milne either?? Cant' find a marriage  :-\
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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 February 08 11:54 GMT (UK) »
I see Ivy's birth as Newick, but struggling to find the rest of the children:

Ivy Blanche L Newick Sep 1892 Leicester 8a 242
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #11 on: Monday 11 February 08 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Same here!  ???
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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 February 08 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Very mysterious

Louis' birthdate is given as 3 July 1895 on his death entry:

Louis Wilfred G Newick aged 90, Feb 1986 Leicester Central 6 2406
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #13 on: Monday 11 February 08 12:12 GMT (UK) »
Frederick Victor Harcourt (? – 1863 - my Grandfather)

Presumably this is a typo for 1963 - but I don't see his death in 1963 or 1964 on the full listings at findmypast ???

Did he die overseas?

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #14 on: Monday 11 February 08 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Okay thanks for all your replies

These are the facts as far as we can tell:

1 Wlliam Chidgey Newick (b 1851 - 1903/4) married (1) 12/1872 Jane ? (1851 -  ) both born in Bristol

2 William married (2) Lois Rebecca Duckworth (b Leicester 1872 - 1943?) in Leicester

3 children born Newick with the dates as previously shown (2 are recorded, William and Frederick were given to me by their Niece Kathleen - Fred may have died in 1962 but certainly in Harpenden, Herts where he and his wife lived

4 I have seen a William/Lois marriage record dated 1892 on Ancestry somewhere but can't remember where

What we want to know is:
1 When did Jane die?
2 When did Lois marry William?
3 Who is the mother of the 4 children?

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« Reply #15 on: Monday 11 February 08 13:14 GMT (UK) »
Well, Jane seems to die in 1898 and none of us seem to have found the 1892 marriage you mention  ???

Who bore the 4 children?
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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #16 on: Monday 11 February 08 13:34 GMT (UK) »
Fred may have died in 1962 but certainly in Harpenden, Herts where he and his wife lived


OK - here's his death

Sep 1962

NEWICK Frederick V.H. 65  St Albans 4b 149                     
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #17 on: Monday 11 February 08 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Hiya guys

Welcome to Rootschat sft456

Logically as Jane didnt die till 1898 I'd say she was their mother but as Tati pointed out its a bit late to be having kids at 40+

Heres my bent on it

Lois was married/lived with to someone called Milne and the children are hers from her first marriage/relationship

She then married/lived with William Newick and he brought the children up until his death

Where did the information come from about William being Fredericks father stf345?

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