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Offline sft456

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We have a problem
« on: Monday 11 February 08 10:55 GMT (UK) »
My Mother's paternal Grandfather, William Chidgey Newick (b Bristol 1851 - 1903) married Lois Rebecca Duckworth (b Leicester 1872 - ?) sometime in the 1890's.

This was his second marriage - his first wife Jane (surname unknown, b Bristol 1851 - ?) died also in the 1890's)

We have found a death record for a Lois Rebecca Newick of 1898 – is this her?

The dilemma is that William and somebody had 4 children - Ivy Blanche L 1892 - 1994) William Christmas (1893 - ?) Louis Wilfred Gladstone (1895 - 1886) and Frederick Victor Harcourt (? – 1863 - my Grandfather)

Are these 4 children from the union of the first or second marriage or a bit of both.?

As a bit of a twist before dying Ivy told her Niece, Kathlean Dixey (still living) that she had a bit of a secret, but unfortunately never divulged it!!

Can anyone help please. Also can anyone fill in the missing dates - BMD and surname of Jane

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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 February 08 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi sft,

Marriage Dec 1872 Bristol
William Chidgey Newick to possibly Jane Speed 6a 7

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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 February 08 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Death?

Jane Newick December 1898 Leicester Vol 7a Page 153 age 48


Cant see one for Lois in 1898, did you mean this one?  :-\
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 February 08 11:27 GMT (UK) »
Strange enough, I can see William and Jane in 1891 without any children - would they have started making kids at 40+?  :-\

I can't see a marriage for Lois Rebecca Duckworth  :-\ Bit mysterious!

If they belonged to me, I'd get hold of one of the children's birth certs! :P  

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 February 08 11:29 GMT (UK) »
Wait! Have you found the kids in 1901? They seem to be called Milne, with mum Lois Rebecca well alive! RG13/2976 7 6  ???
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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 February 08 11:38 GMT (UK) »
I was just going to post that one Tanya, whats going on??  :-\

Is that the secret maybe??
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 February 08 11:45 GMT (UK) »
She's Lois R Duckworth in 1881 RG11/3159 Folio 97 page 27 with parents Henry and Eliza + siblings

and in 1891 with parents RG12/2524 Folio 147 page 41
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 February 08 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Maybe he never married Lois

Is he the William Newick, widower, aged "45", traveller for printer's firm b Bristol who is a lodger in Norwich in 1901?

RG13/1840 folio 46 p42

I know this would understate his age, but his age was also understated at death (Dec 1904 West Ham aged 49)

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: We have a problem
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 February 08 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: CatOne on Monday 11 February 08 11:45 GMT (UK)
She's Lois R Duckworth in 1881 RG11/3159 Folio 97 page 27 with parents Henry and Eliza + siblings

...and still with parents in 1891:  RG12/2524 folio 147 p41


Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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