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another drylie dilema
« on: Monday 11 February 08 03:55 GMT (UK) »
hello everyone,  does anybody have adam drylie born in 1856 in their tree if so do you know who his parents are.  he was married to margaret boyd they had 7 children that i have verified and he died in a mining accident at lumphinins #11 mine when a slab fell on him july 9, 1900.  the dunfermline press has the story on line.  but with all the variations of spelling for the name drylie i have been unable to connect him to any of the other families in my tree.  and before you ask the first born son is named peter and the second born daughter is named catherine.  any help is appreciated   thanks all   beans
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Re: another drylie dilema
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 February 08 07:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi bg

The civil records for the period 1855 to 1875 are on the IGI so he should be there somewhere - or have you decided the birth was not registered? Is 1856 from the age at marriage given on the marriage record or do you know for certain that he was born in that year? Could he have lied about his age?

Is the marriage certificate on SP? (1877 as per the IGI)  It should contain the parent names.

A search on the igi for the surname Drylie indicates many many of the folks with this name come from Dunfermline - would it be possible that his parents married after his birth & he was registered with a different name? You can check all the births registered in Dumfermline for the required years via the batch C114241

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Re: another drylie dilema
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 05:40 GMT (UK) »
hi trish  the igi does not have any adam drylie born in 1856. the marriage of adam drylie and margaret boyd on  4-27-1877 at north church dunfermline lists his age as 21 her age as 19.  the film does not list parents.  there is a center near my house.  i have gone there a few times for info.  there is info available at the center that is not online.  but not in this case.  i have tried the sp a couple of times for other names and have a difficult time navigating that site.  so this family is a dead end.  things would be alot simpler for all of us if the names didnt have so many variations in spelling.   beans
drylie,mcpherson,tod,burt,beveridge
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Re: another drylie dilema
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 11:38 GMT (UK) »
The marriage is very easy to find on SP - Margaret Boyd and Adam Drylie - both spelt correctly
I suggest you read up on using SP - it is a very useful site - especially for civil records
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,43916.0.html

They married at Willwood Colliery Dunfermline after banns and according to the rites of the Church of Scotland - 27 Apr 1877

Parents of the Groom  Peter Daylie Coalminer and Catherine Daylie M.S. Wilson
Parents of the Bride John Boyd coalminer and Elizabeth Boyd M.S. Hunter

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 11:54 GMT (UK) »
1871 Census
Seems there may be a second marriage? or confusion re mother?

1871 census - Fore Rowe, Dunfermline Landward
Adam Drylie 15 son coal Miner  Dunf Fife
Ann Drylie 9
Euphemia Drylie 7
Helen Drylie 2
Janet Drylie 13
Peter Drylie 40
Peter Drylie 5
Jessie Stuart 34

1861
Adan(transcription) 4 son born Dunfermline
Janet 3
Peter 30
Peter 1
Sarah 25 wife?

(all surname Drylie)

Marriage - IGI
Peter Drylie  married Jessie Stewart 15 Dec 1856 Dunfermline, Fife

Could be worth getting the census images - ancestry transcriptions are not the best
Wonder where is Catherine Wilson?

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Here is an interesting birth on the IGI
ADAM WILSON   08 JUN 1856   Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Mother:  CATHERINE WILSON 
No father listed 
C114241  1855 - 1875  6035516 REGISTER  Film  6900808   

I wonder if Catherine died between Jun & December?

Trish 

Edit: there are 2 records for death of Catherine Wilson in 1856 but I have run out of credits.  There is also a birth of a Helen Wilson, mother catherine in Dunfermline in 1857 on the IGI   ???
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Re: another drylie dilema
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 16:00 GMT (UK) »
hi trish i will try the sp again i am not very computer literate and so i did not do well the last time.  and i am not sure who sent me the info and i have not verified it yet but catherine wilson died in the dunfermline poorhouse in 1899. maybe they divorced and and she reverted to her maiden name. and perhaps peter remarried.  this is the family i am currently working on.  what ever info i find i will post and where i got the info.  i am sure there are others out there who have this family in their tree.   thanks for your help beans
drylie,mcpherson,tod,burt,beveridge
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 02:15 GMT (UK) »
hi trish i will try the sp again i am not very computer literate and so i did not do well the last time.  and i am not sure who sent me the info and i have not verified it yet but catherine wilson died in the dunfermline poorhouse in 1899. maybe they divorced and and she reverted to her maiden name. and perhaps peter remarried.  this is the family i am currently working on.  what ever info i find i will post and where i got the info.  i am sure there are others out there who have this family in their tree.   thanks for your help beans

Hi beans

You seem to be getting the hang of the internet well - your knowledge can only get better  :)  but it was your comment here

i have tried the sp a couple of times for other names and have a difficult time navigating that site.  so this family is a dead end.

that I disagreed with - while people are still answering your queries & you are still looking - it may be your current "brick wall" but hopefully not a dead end  ;D

You are so lucky living near an LDS centre - a big advantage for family history & I have always found the folks at my centre very helpful - I wish it was closer

good luck

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Re: another drylie dilema
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 02:29 GMT (UK) »
hi trish my biggest problem is remembering the difference in us dollars to british pounds i kind of went over board because i forgot the difference and equated dollar to pound which was not good for my bank account. i tried the faqs and it mentioned a payment portal but i still cant get it to convert to dollars so i know what i am spending.  the search on the site is only difficult for one of the families i am researching as you know from other posts the variations on the name drylie are a problem.the perfect example is my 3x great grandfather whom nobody but me [as far as i know] lists him with his parents. on the igi his name is listed as drylaw however somebody sent me the actual bans of marriage that list his name as peter drylie the son of david drylie and helen tod. the birth on the igi is an extracted record so i can understand the reluctance but with the actual marriage bans that should have been the end of it.  do you know what 12 pounds would be in american dollars?  and thanks for the reply alot of the info i am trying to verify was sent to me by others and has no verification so i am trying to do that before i pass the info on.     beans
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