COCKS/COX Family

[cfuller1958]

Any Info on this family specially James and Ada would be great.
James Cocks wife Ada McMullan or McMullen
Births Deaths
Date and place of Marriage unknown
Children:
As per NSW BDM
11644/1889  COCKS  MARY E  JAMES  ADA  NEWTOWN     
24174/1894  COCKS  JAMES  JAMES  ADA  NEWTOWN     
20671/1897  COCKS  FLORENCE H  JAMES  ADA  CANTERBURY   
10160/1901  COCKS  ERNEST C  JAMES  ADA  ANNANDALE   
27739/1903  COCKS  ETHEL  JAMES  ADA  ANNANDALE   
22755/1907  COCKS  WILBURT F  JAMES  ADA  CAMPERDOWN
Some of these children changed spelling of surname to Cox.
I know for sure Ethel and Florence changed to Cox when or before they Married.
Ethel is My Fathers Mother, she Married 3 times:
1) Reginald Tanner 31.3.1923 Note: On marriage cert. Parents names as
James and Ada Cox (nee McMullan). 1 Child Peggy Tanner
2) William Jones 11.11.1932. 2 Children both out of Wedlock William and Leslie
3) George Jones 1940 1 Child George
Info I have been given by other researchers:
1903 Electoral Roll list
James Cocks   61 Young Street, Annandale occup Carpenter
Ada Cocks       61 Young Street, occup Home duties

Thanks in Advance
Colleen

[tropicalj]

Hello  there  and Welcome to Roots Chat

I  have had no  luck  in  finding  much  about  the arrival  or  marriage etc
I  would suggest  to  you  that you  get a  copy  of one of  the chidrens's birth certificates
because you should find the following information on  them

"Birth Certificates

Full name, sex, date and place of birth
Mother's details including full name and maiden name, age, occupation, place of birth
Father's details including full name, age, occupation, place of birth
Date and place of parent's marriage
Previous children of the relationship "

it will  cost you about $30 from  NSW BDM's
or around $15.00 if you  use a transcription agent.

have  found a  Wilbert Frederick COX dying in 1972 reg no 69480  parents James and Ada (NSW)
so  this  could be  Wilburt F Cocks?
kind regards Jenn

[cfuller1958]

Hi Jenn 
thanks for info. Yes looks like i will have to get info through  birth certificate. Can you tell me of how to find a transcription agent.
As you can see im pretty new to all this and already finding many ghost in my tree that just dont want to be found.
Thanks
Colleen
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~fuller_apps/family.html

[tropicalj]

you  can "google " transcription agents NSW and find

Joy Murrin

Laurie Turtle to name a  couple

I  must admit to using Laurie  very  efficient and friendly and  quick, that just my  own  personal experience.

http://www.marbract.com.au/ - Marilyn Rowan, New South Wales Certificate Transcription Agent, Marbract Services.

http://www.joymurrin.com.au/ - Joy Murrin, New South Wales Certificate Transcription Agent and overseas certificate agent.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/lturtle/ - Turtle Consolidated Services. Provides transcriptions of NSW births, deaths and marriages and also offers services at the NSW State Archives.


Jenn

[mcjools]

Hi cfuller1958,
Me again I am still trying to break down this same brick wall! The only thing I have come up with is: *Ada's NSW Birth Reg: 649/1859 MACMULLEN ADA E EDWARD EMMA SYDNEY
649/1859 MCMULLEN ADA E EDWARD EMMA SYDNEY
*I now have a copy of the birth transcription for Ada in my possession, it states that Ada's mother was 17 yrs. old when she gave birth to Ada Esther on the 21st. February 1859 at Elizabeth street Sydney. NSW. Father Edward was 22 yrs. old and gives his birthplace as "At Sea" his occupation at the time of his daughter's birth was given as Coach Builder.
*As far as I can ascertain, Ada was the only child born to Edward & Emma... at least in the NSWindexes.
Further enquiries into her father Edwards' background led me to what I think is his arrival in 1857 at age 24 on the 'Beejapore', parents John & Margaret of Glasgow? He was to stay with his brother William who was an Innkeeper in Lower George street Sydney (have had no luck confirming that bit). I had reason to believe that Edward & Emma went to Tasmania but I cant remember why?? Then my search went cold again!
*Edwards' age is out by at least two years here but it is the closest (no only ) thing I have been able to find... another brick wall! I could try his Scottish roots but wanted to follow his Australian history first if possible.
Any ideas???
Regards Jools.

[Jamjar]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Edward was born at sea, he would have arrived in1837, I think. 

Jamjar

[mcjools]

Your'e absolutely right Jamjar Guess thats explains a lot about why i'm in this pickle eh? . Wev'e been chipping away at this brickwall for so long I must be ready to believe anything!
Ah well back to the drawing board I guess.
Jools

[Jamjar]

Don't lose hope Jools. 

Jamjar

P.S. Have just had another think about it. Just because he was born at sea doesn't mean he wasn't born at sea long before coming to Australia, on a voyage to elsewhere. His death certificate would be handy.

Think I've now confused myself, which is easily done. 

[mcjools]

Nah I won't but I do feel pretty stupid  about that last 'faux pas'
*Edwards' daughter Ada's birth certificate in 1859 states his birthplace as being 'At Sea'.
At the time of his daughter Ada's birth: His age 22yrs. His place and time of Marriage was given as Windsor, NSW. 1858.
You would think they would be easy to find?? 

I don't know where or when he died??
Jools

Ps He could have lied about being born at sea so as not to betray his real PLOB... for whatever reasons