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Offline crystalight

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Is it possible to look for a birth in West Indies
« on: Saturday 09 February 08 21:43 GMT (UK) »
 ??? Does anyone know if it is possible to look for a births and marriages in the West Indies  ??? probably Jamaica and if so where  ???

abt 1845 child Paris Bradshawe
parents Paris William Augustus Bradshawe in 77th(East Middlesex) Regiment  and wife Isabella nee Kernahan

Also a marriage Paris William Augustus Bradshawe to Rebecca Frances......?
between 1851 and 1881
Rebecca Frances was born in Jamaica West Indies c1820

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Re: Is it possible to look for a birth in West Indies
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 February 08 22:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Crystal,

This site may be of help? It has contact addresses and other info.

www.channel4.com/history/microsites/u/untold/resources/geno/geno3c.html

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Re: Is it possible to look for a birth in West Indies
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 February 08 05:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Crystal.
        This is a very good site, it will give you much information,inc links for west indies.
      http://www.interment.net/other/wi/index.htm

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Re: Is it possible to look for a birth in West Indies
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 February 08 09:08 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Is it possible to look for a birth in West Indies
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 February 08 09:46 GMT (UK) »
 8) Many thanks for the reply,s Zoe, Reg and Shaun,  :)

I will give those links a try, fingers crossed  ???

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Grimes - Middlesex and Surrey
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Bradshawe - Hampshire, London and East Indies
Hearsey - India (British Army), Cumberland and London

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Re: Is it possible to look for a birth in West Indies
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 February 08 10:41 GMT (UK) »
 :) Update - 

Zoe -  the chanel4 link seems to be broken so will try again Thank you.  :(

Reg - I have bookmarked Thank you, useful site but at the moment I cannot find what I am looking for but maybe later.  :)

Shaun - That looks really promising But .. isn't there always a catch, they only let you go so far without subscribing. I will get all my information together and then maybe I can get away with only one months membership  ??? Thank you  ;D
 
Once again Thanks for the help
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Bradshawe - Hampshire, London and East Indies
Hearsey - India (British Army), Cumberland and London

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Re: Is it possible to look for a birth in West Indies
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 August 13 15:52 BST (UK) »
Hi all,
I am GG granddaughter of Thomas Christie Bradshawe and am completely puzzled about the whole family situation surrounding his birth and circumstances. His parents are Isabella Kernahan and Paris William Augustus Bradshawe.  Thomas sometimes goes by the name of Christie.  Isabella seems to end up in a workhouse giving birth to Thomas and Paris (who died as a baby).  Next thing Paris is a widower and married to Rebecca Fanny from Jamaica who has another Thomas (three years younger) and another Paris.  Some time after this she gives birth to George. 
Why would Paris William Augustus (who was of high military position) have a wife who ended up in a workhouse?  Why would he remarry and then have two more sons with the same names?  I think that the two boys listed as Rebecca's may have actually been Isabella's boys but raised as her own by Rebecca.  If this is correct why is young Paris's death recorded in the workhouse?

Also there is another mystery.  If Isabella is the same person who ended up as a pauper in the workhouse, whose behavior is listed as bad, she was probably then a little crazy.  Now the younger Paris, listed as Rebecca's son, ended up in a lunatic asylum and died as a pauper.  Was he really Isabella's son who ended up crazy like his mother?

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Re: Is it possible to look for a birth in West Indies
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 August 13 16:53 BST (UK) »
Without looking too deeply into the family one possibility is that she only went into the Workhouse to give birth. Often they were the only institutions with anything like a medical facility such as they were.
Being of high military rank doesn't necessarily equate with having money. Army pay even for Officers was very small & they often had to rely on an external income to get by. If he didn't have anything else private medicine would probably be beyond him & I notice in 1851 he's unattached & on half pay.


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Re: Is it possible to look for a birth in West Indies
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 August 13 20:30 BST (UK) »
Hi all,
I am GG granddaughter of Thomas Christie Bradshawe and am completely puzzled about the whole family situation ........etc..........

Hi, I believe you are probably my 3rd Cousin and if so I am in contact with your Mother whom I have sent much family tree information to in the past, she will know who I am!

Thomas Christie Bradshawe is indeed quite a puzzle........ or rather his father and consequent step-mother are. I have huge amounts of information on the family but cannot quite get to the bottom of it all!
Isabella nee Kernahan and her parentage are somewhat of a mystery too.
The Paris and Thomas Bradshawe (with Rebecca Frances) are definitely different children to Isabella's children as I have found documentation to back this up.
I have been to the National Archives at Kew to see the full Naval Records of Thomas Christie Bradshawe and have a very accurate account of his life form the age of 15. First entry certificate to the Navy shows No. 95 Name Thomas Christie alias Thomas Christie Bradshawe, Born St. Lukes Middlesex, 11th September 1838

I believe also this following entry to be Thomas and his mother in 1851 Census - Living as Thomas Christie at 9 Colston Street, Bedminster, Somerset aged 12 years, a scholar born Middlesex London with his mother Isabella Christie aged 39 years, occupation annuitant born Belfast, Ireland.
 
Attached to Thomas' Naval records at the National Archives are three hand written letters, One is from the Captain of HMS Victory written on 21st January 1867 explaining Thomas' previous name of Thomas Christie and how he now wishes to be known as Thomas Christie Bradshawe, his proper name. Another from The Department of the Accountant General of the Navy worded in a very similar manner written on 23rd February 1867. The third written on 26th February 1867 advising the captain of the notification and giving him permission to alter the ship's books accordingly, also his prior engagement, signature unreadable. Written at the side of these notes in red ink are some scribbled notes about his name and former description matching etc. (very difficult to read) it ends not on books 2 March. 67 signed GFE

I have also been to Windsor Castle to look at their documentation about Paris William Augustus Bradshawe, again extremely detailed with many personal letters.
Paris William Augustus Bradshawe was found in 1881 census - Living at Salisbury Tower 7 Military Knights Row, (now part of Windsor Castle) New Windsor, Berkshire aged 75 years occupation Retired Colonel of Army M.K.W. (Military Knight of Windsor) with his wife Rebecca Frances aged 61 years
1891 Census - Rebecca Frances Bradshawe (transcribed Bradelaine) Living as a visitor at 7/8 Gloucester Place, New Windsor, Berkshire aged 72 years, a widow, living on her own means with her son Paris Bradshawe aged 44 years occupation M.R.C.S not in practice and overwritten Surgeon Doctor, both living with Sarah Johnson aged 48 years, a wife to head of household (not listed)

1895 - (Entry not yet confirmed but I am told it is on 'Find my Past') - Departure from Port of London, destination West Indies & Antigua listing Rebecca Bradshawe year of birth 1825 and Paris Bradshawe year of birth 1855
Interestingly amongst the letters held at Windsor castle was a memoranda dated August 22nd 1886 to a Mr Cope from M. Courtesay to say (briefly) that Thankfully Mrs Bradshawe had sailed for Barbados after they made the fare available to her!
Also 1895 to same destination from Southampton are two entries for Bradshaw with no date of birth and one with no forename the other listed as grandchild.

Do hope some of this helps
Crystal :D



 
Oakes and Rance - Cheshire
Wright, Teesdale, MacWhirter -Sussex
Wright, Wooldridge and Little - Surrey and London
Grimes - Middlesex and Surrey
Cardy - Surrey
Broyd, Hanch and Lazell - Essex
Bradshawe - Hampshire, London and East Indies
Hearsey - India (British Army), Cumberland and London

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk