steels from johnston

[poppysmum]

Hi,
It's been a while since you replied to me.  it IS the same family, I have old family papers that state that James's first wife was Elizabeth Robertson, and that their children were James, Archibald and Robert.  Isabella married James in 1843 at Paisley.  Elizabeth obvisouly died between 1833 and 1843.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
CAroline

[wavelength]

Caroline:

I am interested in swopping information about the Steels! A Personal Message has my contact details.

Best regards
Robert

[marcie dean]

james steel married helen slight of musselburghthey moved to edinburgh where adam was born then to paisleyand ayrshire where the other children were born
james steels mother was elizabeth traill her mother was charlotte laird and her family were traill de holland aristocrats of the area.of orkney
marji
if you would like further info, email me on pm and i can invite you to view my traill tree on ancestry.
marji.

[poppysmum]

Thanks Robert, got your message, I will get on and let you know the information that I have.  Are you on ancestry?

Marj, are you related to this family as well? I'm not sure who adam is, would you be able to explain it to me?
Thanks

[wavelength]

Caroline: not on Ancestry. I have been using familysearch.org. Your earlier post suggests that we are not at the bottom of this mystery. I have Robert Steel marrying Elizabeth Robertson in 1823, with James being born in 1826. This conflicts with your family papers.

Marji: The reason why I have chosen Robert Steel as James Steel’s father is that Robert’s mother is possibly Bethia Craig. The name Craig appears as a middle name in later generations of the family. I accept that this evidence is thin, but there are many James Steel’s in the area to choose from at that time.

[poppysmum]

The family papers have Elizabeth as being the first wife and Isabella as being the second.

[wavelength]

OK, but wives of whom: Robert or James? Your earlier post says James....

[poppysmum]

Hi,
Ok, I'm obviously getting myself into a muddle with the generations and names so I will copy out exactly what information I have and then hopefully I will be clearer 

James Archibald Steel married Mary Craig
Children - james b.31 mar 1799 Abbey Paisley Renfrew

               Robert b. Feb 1804
                             married Isabella McNish (b. Feb 1816 Middle Grennock, her parents were Robert Mcnish and Dorothy Mc Taggert)  14 Jul 1843  Paisley
               Robert died 6 may 1856 Johnstone Renfrew.

This was the second marriage of Robert Steele, First marriage is thought to be to a Elizabeth Robertson.  (Still working on this area)
Children - * James
                * Archibald b, 10 Apr 1833 Kilbarchan Renfrew
                * Eliza b Dec 1843 Abbey Paisley
                   Martha b 1848
                   Girl    b.
                    John   b. 1850 Johnstone
                   Isabella   b. 1850 Johnstone
                   Girl

   * 1st marriage and still at home 1851.



I am descended through John who married Annie Thomson in 1872.

I have tried to wtite it out exactly as it is written, so they are not my words.  The information was sent to my granpa in the early 80s from a Cannadian woman, most of the children of john and Annie emigrted to Canada but my great granny was sent back to Scotland after her mother died which is why this branch is Scottish!

I really hope that this matches 'your' Steeles and that it makes sense
Caroline

[marcie dean]

I HAVE JAMES STEEL MARRIED TO HELEN SLIGHT PERER S;LIGHT WAS HER CAUTIONER AT THEIR MARRIAGE WHILT ANDREW STEILLE WAS JAMES CAUTIONER.BEING HIS FATHER THEY HAD TWO CHILDREN BEFORE THEY MARRIED GORGINA OR GEORGIA, AND THOMAS I THINK, BY THE TIME ADAM CAME ALONG THEY HAD MOVED TO EDINBURGH, THEN MOVED TO AYRSHIRE WHERE THEY HAD A BUILDING FIRM AND WHERE GEORGE BLANCHARD STEEL MET AND AND GOT MY GRT GRRAN PREGNANT BY THE WAY I FOUND HIS DEATH IN EBGLAND IN 1945BUT CANT REMEMBER WHERE.,MYSTROKE HAS A LOT TO ANSWER FOR.
MARJI
ALSO ALEXANDER HAD A SISTER MARY AND A BROTHER JOHN JOHN WAS A REVEREND AND MARY LOOKED SFTER HIM WHEN HE BECAME UNWELL