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John White - Harrow Weald
« on: Saturday 09 February 08 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Please can anyone help with information on John White. He was apparently a celebrated hunting squire of Harrow Weald. His son, Thomas, was born c1732 and died in 1812 and was a Coal Merchant of White Cross Street Saint Luke , who married Jane Smith 14 Apr 1776 St Luke Old Street as his second wife.
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Philippa

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Re: John White - Harrow Weald
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 May 09 15:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Phillippa

Prerogative Court of Canterbury will

Will of Thomas White, Coal Merchant of White Cross Street Saint Luke , Middlesex 13 August 1812 PROB 11/1536 

There is a John White PCC for South Weald but nothing else specifically for Harrow and or Weald.

Will of John White, Gentleman of South Weald , Essex
Date 30 June 1760
Catalogue reference PROB 11/857 


http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/

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Re: John White - Harrow Weald
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 May 09 20:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Valda,
Thank you so much for the information. I will certainly have a look at John White of South Weald, but I suspect that Essex is just too far away from Harrow Weald. The will of the Thomas White you mention is correct. He is a younger son of John White who moved away from Harrow to White Cross Street. Unfortunately I don't know who were the other siblings of Thomas and need all the help I can get to track the family down.
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Philippa

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Re: John White - Harrow Weald
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 May 09 20:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Phillipa

PCC will

Will of John White, Saw maker of White Cross Street, Middlesex
Date 18 March 1751
Catalogue reference PROB 11/786 


That would seem to be similar to a coal merchant

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Re: John White - Harrow Weald
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 08:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Valda,
I have just bought a copy of this will from the National Archives. Unfortunately I can't see a link, unless he is a brother of Thomas who died young. If he was the father I assume he would have left something to his children, not just his wife as this John has. It is unfortunate for me that he did not have a more unusual name!
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Re: John White - Harrow Weald
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 20:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Phillipa

What was the name of his wife? Do the executors give any further clues? You would have expected some mention of children even if they were underage which Thomas would have been in 1751.

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Re: John White - Harrow Weald
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 10:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Valda,
The name of the wife in the will of John White of White Cross Street is Judith. I don't know the name of the wife of my John White. All we know is that he was "a celebrated hunting squire of Harrow Weald" and that he is supposed to be buried in the church in Harrow but we don't know when he died. Thomas was born c1732, possibly in Harrow Weald, he is a younger son and he is buried n Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury. So we are looking for a John White born c1700 perhaps who was presumably married in the 1720s. We need to find out if there are any burial records for Harrow Weald around that time and see if there is a White family recorded.
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Philippa

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Re: John White - Harrow Weald
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 20:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Philippa

This webpage has details on Harrow on the Hill church and the transcription of the church's monumental inscriptions. The church records are deposited at the London Metropolitan Archives.

http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/HarrowOnTheHill/index.html

There are 4 White PCC wils connected with Harrow on the Hill (3 for widows) - none for a Thomas White.

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Re: John White - Harrow Weald
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 May 09 09:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Valda,
You have found out so much information, it's wonderful. Unfortunately I don't live in London so don't have ready access to the LMA, but I will have to plan a trip to look at the records. I wonder if the three ladies  who have left wills are any connection.
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Philippa