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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #63 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 12:29 BST (UK) »
Did  Ellen  and  Oliver  divorce  after  all?

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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #64 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 12:37 BST (UK) »
Have you seen  this  death

ELLEN RIDGEWAY  died 1940 in  NSW fathe Thomas mother Martha  at Marrickville

no  good wrong  parents


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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #65 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 12:41 BST (UK) »
The divorce we found of Oliver and Ellen Ridgway in NSW didn't seem to be related.  
William JJ Reader's (corespondent) war records said his wife's maiden name was Lambert - even though the date range for their births etc were consistent.
So we have two options:
1) Not related couple
2) Ellen lied about her maiden name when she remarried (but I think we found a birth of an Ellen Lambert too...so maybe this option is null and void)

For Oliver to have remarried he would have either:
1) had a dead wife
2) had a divorced wife or
3) was a bigamist (cool...more skeletons)

I only know about Ellen ending up in a mental hospital (don't know where), from talking to a family member.

(thanks for your continuing interest by the way) ;D
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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #66 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 12:42 BST (UK) »
Did  you  or  anyone  else  actually  have a  look  at  the divorce records  by  any  chance?

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HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #67 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 12:54 BST (UK) »
No. 
Records were kept in NSW so a bit far away to look at in person. 
It would cost $45 to get a photocopy - I considered this a bit rich if they weren't the right Ellen and Oliver. 
Somebody suggested a transcription agent...I'm still trying to find the thread where I had that chat - sorry if I don't remember who...and I considered it until we discovered the war records with the different maiden name. 
I still have a gut feeling that it maybe the right divorce. 
If I could find records of Ellen in a mental institution then there may be clues to whether there was a divorce.
It's a mystery.... ???

PS I just published a post on my blog if you're interested
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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #68 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 13:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Tristi and everyone

So glad we are on the hunt again. It seems as though someone has been investigating the Parson's side as there is a whole lot of Submitted entries on IGI.

christening;
GEORGE PARSONS s/o Abraham and Charlotte
born abt 1843 West Monkton
Married Flora Hurford

marriage ;
Abraham Parsons = Charlotte Crocken 1803, West monkton

In 1841
West monkton
Abraham Parsons 50 ag lab b Kingston
Charlotte wife 50 b Taunton
Abraham son 22lab b WM
Charlotte dau 18 dressmaker b EM
Elizabeth dau 16 b WM
\Isaac 11 b WM
George 6 or 8 hard to see, b WM

in 1861 Abraham and Charlotte are still together , living at 2 Heathfield Leach Cottages ...no children with them

I can't see George in 1861  :-\

have you ordered George Parson's = Flora Hurford,  marriage cert ... at least then we would definitely have his dad's name ...

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #69 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 13:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Tristi

Just read your updated blog ....

You mention a daughter Sarah who supposedly died ...could this Sarah have been "Silly Ridgway" who was with Sarah , see below. I will recheck the 1901 UK for you ....

Found this entry on the Unassisted inward Passenger lists to Victoria 1852 to 1923
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23
Chemnitz 1892, Foreign Port, Fiche 274, page 001
RIDGEWAY Oliver 6
RIDGEWAY Sarah 27
RIDGEWAY Silly 1 (probably mistranscribed)
Cheers Leonie

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #70 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 13:49 BST (UK) »
That's the right Parson's I think.
Is 1803 too early to order a marriage certificate?

I can't find George in 1861 either.

Now that I have Ellen's marriage certificate, and I can confirm George as her father, I will order his death certificate next week.  I can't find Flora's death though.

I haven't ordered George & Flora's marriage cert yet.  It should also give me Flora's dad's name - I hope it's not Batten, because i suspect her father is somebody else.  That cert may have to wait until the week after next.  Death certificates are more important at the moment.

As for Flora, Mum found a christening for Flora Herford - so maybe there's another 'e' variant.  

Perhaps 'Sarah' is 'Silly' - but I think it's more likely to be Lilly.  Old 's's look a lot like an curly L.  I think the informant accidentally put Sarah in the wrong column.  There's certainly no mention of a child 'sarah' on William Frank's birth certificate, and he was supposed to be the last born child.  (unless Sarah was born after him - but there's no record of a sarah born in victoria)

Thanks for helping, Tristi
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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #71 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 14:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Tristi

eekkkk On IGI a submitted entry;

Flora Hurford
christened; 2 may 1847
d/o James Batten and Mary Ann Hurford

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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