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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #90 on: Thursday 22 May 08 10:00 BST (UK) »
I don't think it is the sister of Ellen that married James Rossiter.  Louisa is 4yrs in 1881, his marriage was 1885.  Louisa sister of Ellen married Fred Oaten in 1900

These look possibles

Deaths Mar 1916  Parsons  George  65  Taunton  5c 428 (age is a few years out for age in 1901, so may not be yours)

Deaths Mar 1922  Parsons  Flora  77  Taunton  5c 457

It would be useful to check MI's for West Monkton, this link states it has the approx 900 MI's for the area, it is pay to view but only a small amount per record, at least you can hopefully pinpoint your folk before you buy death certs. 

http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/database/SDFHSMIfull.shtml

http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/database/index.shtml#SOM

Also Somerset Record Office hold details of burials

www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/ASP/parish.asp?Parish=West+Monkton

You could contact them direct or post on the Somerset board, with a link to this thread, and ask if anyone is visiting the record office. There are also some look up offers (Taunton cemeteries) and resources on that board, worth checking, if you already have not.

Also post 1901 you could look at obituaries and wills to see if Ellen is mentioned.  Possibly George or Flora have newspaper obits, are in the directories, or did wills if they ran the post office.  The Library below has a email link and has a collection of newspapers & directories.  If there are wills to be had at Nat Archives, Deb is a whiz at finding them...

The Somerset Studies Library is based at Taunton Library.  It is a public reference library which holds a variety of local history material including books, journals, maps and illustrations. The Somerset Studies Library also offers a local family history research service.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03gd/   Click 'contacts' at the bottom of service info, for email addie

Just a few possibles, good luck

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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #91 on: Thursday 22 May 08 11:57 BST (UK) »
Cas,
Yeah...I didn't check the dates when I jumped to the conclusion about Louisa & James.   ::)  I just like quirky coincidences.

Where did you find George & Flora's deaths?  I have been looking and looking.  Perhaps I was going off dodgy birth years from one of the censuses, without checking them - and then discounting the entry??? 
But they died in Taunton - so you'd think I'd jump to that conclusion too.
I'm going to order the death certificates anyway - I have so few to work from.  (It's a shame they don't include parents names like they do in Australia).

The monumental inscriptions sound good.  West Monkton only goes to mid 1800's - which may be good for finding Parsons and Hurfords - but before Ridgway times.  I looked at the link you sent, Cas, and it looked like I would have to buy CD ROM indexes.  Is that right?  added half an hour later:  Strike that...I think I figured it out.  I'll have a look tomorrow. 

I have looked through the Somerset board and thought about posting requests for a lookup at the Records Office - but I don't want to ask somebody to do that for me until I have exhausted all avenues.  However, I wasn't so bashful about asking somebody to go look at St. Augustine's cemetery in West Monkton (I do cemetery lookups for Far East Victoria).  I sent a pm a while ago, but haven't heard back.  Perhaps it's an inactive member. 

I didn't know about the Somerset Studies Library - so I will definitely have a look at obits for George or Flora.  I don't know whether any of the other family members would have obits. 

Thanks for getting my back, and picking up the pieces I leave behind.
Cheers, Tristi
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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #92 on: Thursday 22 May 08 12:07 BST (UK) »
No....it states Other related information is available on CD-ROM (for MS-Windows) and microfiche from the Somerset and Dorset Family History Society, web site www.sdfhs.org.

Familyhistoryonline is a pay to view (it used to be a few pence per record, not sure what the cost is now, but could not have gone up much)  You register, and you can search for free (or it used to be, have not used it for a while) you then pay to view the record, if you want.

Deaths for the Parsons are on Freebmd, It just searched 'Parsons' deaths, Taunton, after 1901, no first name. Rechecked with a phonetic search, incase of mistranscriptions, but nothing else came up....

There was only one other George, from 1901 to present with records they have there, but it is not complete...but don't think he is yours...  Only one came up for Flora

Deaths Mar 1905  Parsons  Farmer George  66  Taunton  5c 245

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Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #93 on: Thursday 22 May 08 13:17 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have just found a petition for divorce between George Parsons and Flora Selina Parsons dated  1908. George is the petitioner, Co-respondent is Edward Dyers.

Is this a coincidence ?  I rechecked 1901 using Flora Parsons , spouse George ..no dates or places and yours are the only couple with those names. Although , of course this divorce may belong to another George and Flora who married after 1901.

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #94 on: Thursday 22 May 08 13:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Deb Don't think it is related....

Marriages Sep 1894   
 
Machin  Emilie Jane    Aston  6d 368   
Parsons  George     Aston  6d 368   
Rigby  Alfred Briscall     Aston  6d 368   
Simmons  Flora Selina     Aston  6d 368

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Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
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Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #95 on: Thursday 22 May 08 13:29 BST (UK) »
Good find Cas!!!!!   ;D

Can't see any wills on NA for them  :-\  will keep looking

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #96 on: Friday 23 May 08 06:31 BST (UK) »
Cas,
thank you so much for sending me that link to the pay-per-view site of monumental inscriptions.  It has become my new best friend. 

I found inscriptions for Mary Rossiter, who is buried with her daughter Alice (and was just one image further on than I had searched when I was trawling through death registers).

I also found Sarah Pring formerly Ridgway formerly Rossiter, who is buried with her second husband.

Now I'm going to order their death certificates instead of the Parsons, who I couldn't pin down in the monumental inscriptions or burials.  There's about a million of those too.  And they called their kids similar names. 

I'll keep looking for the Parsons' before I commit myself.

I also searched for Ellen Ridgway and didn't find a burial or inscription.  I think she's going to be a mystery for a while.

And now I'm going to put a smiley face in at the request of my 4 yo son Lokan:   :P

Thanks for your help, Tristi
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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #97 on: Friday 23 May 08 09:45 BST (UK) »
Glad the link proved worthwhile....  (a smillie for Lokan   ;) )

I think the death ref for Flora Parsons is the correct one, as age fits.  Also when Oliver & Ellen married, George was not stated deceased - although unless he signed as witness, he could have been  :-\

Don't think they would have moved out of the area, having been there throughout census, another possible is electrol info for the post office, or directories as mentioned.....but am sure you will find out about them eventually....it is amazing what you have found in the last few short months.... :o

Also the info that Sarah Pring died in the area, there is also a good possible that Lily married in the area, so the 'Gready' marriage Deb found could very well be her.

Would also love to know what 'happened' to Ellen.  Did you get around to the divorce papers?  Do you think the W JJ Reader is the same guy mentioned in divorce, is the same as that who married a Ellen Lambert in 1924.  If so...looks like they did not end up together...just a bit of spec.

If you do find any connection to Ellen having mental health probs..I would investigate the 100 yr rule, as I know in some circumstances people have got around it...see link

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=6adb08cd967060451c3b480a6613d958&topic=302020.msg1849579

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Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
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Re: RIDGWAY - Lookup request marriage, death, anything!
« Reply #98 on: Saturday 24 May 08 04:24 BST (UK) »
I think it's the right Flora Parsons too.  But I'm still going to order Sarah & Mary's death certificates first so as not to blow the budget.

I don't think George was deceased in 1907, as it stated that William was deceased at Oliver and Ellen's marriage - so if George was dead, logically he would also be 'deceased' on the certificate.  I think Ellen's brother Herbert was witness from memory.

As for Lily, I looked up Lily Gready on MI's, and it said:  Lily Gready died 13 April 1969, aged 82, St Augustine West Monkton.  (recorded accidentally) - that would make her born in 1887.  However, Lily Ridgway's birth was on Christmas eve 1886, making her 82 on the 13 April 1969.  So...I think we have the right Lily.  I think it's interesting her monument was recorded accidentally...there must have been some sort of rule of thumb for this index saying that monuments after a certain time shouldn't be put on the internet but this one was done accidentally.  There's been a lot of 'accidents' and 'coincidences' in this search.  I'm taking them all as a huge sign to keep searching.

Ellen Ridgway is going to be the big mystery...I can just tell.  A wonderful RootsChatter ordered the divorce records from the NSW records office for me as a tribute to a critically ill rootschatter who did the same for her when she started.  I'd love to mention her name to give her the credit she deserves (I'd also like to send her the $$), but I don't know how she'd feel about that, so I'm going to just say that I'm eternally grateful. 

Thanks for the link re 100 year rule.  I wonder if I'll need it?  Ellen really is a mystery
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