Hancox Family West Bromwich

[gatherer]

Can anyone help me?

I’m looking for information on the following family
From the 1901 census St John the Evangelist Parish
Living at 22 Hall Street West Bromwich
Name             Age    Occupation       Born
Benjamin Hancox    Head   39   Builders Carter    Evesham, Worcestershire
Sarah A Hancox   Wife   38                   Tipton Staffordshire
Frederick W Hancox   Son   13        Factory Hand Packing Lamps  West Bromwich Staffordshire
Joseph S Hancox    Son    10      West Bromwich Staffordshire
Albert Hancox   Son    3      West Bromwich Staffordshire
Ernest Hancox   Son    1      West Bromwich Staffordshire
Edgar Hancox   Son    3 Months      West Bromwich Staffordshire

[CaroleW]

Hi

Are you looking for earlier census info or are you looking for post 1901 info?

1901 is the last available online census but we can help with 1891 info if you don't already have it

[gatherer]

if you could look up the 1891 census that would be great as I am in Scotland so it is not easy for me to get information. Also if you get anything after 1901 that would be great too. I do know that Joseph S Hancox married in Dundee in 1891 to Margaret Gauld and returned to live in West Bromwich where they lived until they died.

[CaroleW]

Hi

Sarah was his second wife

Benjamin Hancox / Sarah Ann Hammonds
December quarter 1896  West Bromwich  Volume: 6b 
Page: 1489

I'm still looking for the 1891 entry

I do know that Joseph S Hancox married in Dundee in 1891 to Margaret Gauld

Joseph was only born in 1891

[CaroleW]

Hi

This is the only logical Benjamin Hancox entry for 1891 but some of the details do not tie in with the 1901

First - this death

Clara Jane Hancox aged 38 December quarter 1893
West Bromwich Volume: 6b Page: 560 

1891 census 75 Greets Green West Bromwich

Benjamin Hancox 30 grocers warehouseman b Gloucester Dursley
Clara Jane 35 b Birmingham Warwickshire
Emma Edith 4 b West Brom
William Frederick 3 b West Brom

In 1901 there is an Edith Hancox b 1887 West Brom working as a servant in Handsworth

[gatherer]

Thanx for this but could you look in 1901 for this Benjamin Hancox b Gloucester Dursley if its not too much trouble because if he turns up then he is not the same one as I am looking for

[CaroleW]

Already did that and there's nobody with that birthplace.  That's what made me think that the 1891 I found was the only logical one given the death of Clara and the re-marriage to Sarah Ann. 

There is quite a gap in ages between Joseph & Albert which is another give away of a possible re-marriage

If you look at the 1901 entry you listed - Frederick is shown as Frederick W whereas in 1891 he is William Frederick.  You can view the 1901 index for free at

www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk

There are a couple of ways of proving whether I am right.  A copy of the marriage cert to Sarah will show his status as widower but will not really give you the proof positive that the 1891 is the right entry.  The only conclusive way is as follows:

A copy of one of the 1891 children's birth certs will confirm the mothers name and maiden name

Births Dec 1886 
Hancox  Emma Edith     West Bromwich  6b 778

Births Dec 1887
Hancox  William Frederick     West Bromwich  6b 748   

A copy of one of the 1901 childrens birth certs will give mothers name and maiden name

Albert Hancox Dec qtr 1897 Oct-Nov-Dec  West Bromwich 6B 848

Edgar Hancox March qtr 1901 West Bromwich Volume: 6b  Page: 860

Benjamin Hancox married Clara Jane Allday September qtr 1886
West Bromwich  6B 930

[gatherer]

Thanks for all your help looks like you are right I will have to order the certificates to try and sort this family out.

[gatherer]

Got Birth Certificate for Joseph Sidney Hancox Born 17th April 1891,
Mother named as Clara Jane Hancox formerly Allday.
So obviously the 1891 census which was taken before he was born is for the right family.

Got Birth Certificate for Edgar Hancox, which gives his mother as Sarah Ann Hancox late Hammond formerly Wilkes.

So yes there were two marriages.

Found a date for Sarah Wilkes/ Thomas Hammond marriage Dec 1885
Found possible death for Thomas Hammond July 1893
Found date for the Benjamin Hancox /Sarah Hammond marriage Dec 1896

Sorry made a real typing error with Joseph S Hancox married to Margaret Gauld in Dundee should be 1918 not 1891. Already have their marriage certificate.
On it his mother was given as Sarah A Allday but as he was only 2 yrs only when Clara Jane Allday died I’m not surprised he got muddled up with his information.

Got Marriage Certificate for Benjamin Hancox & Clara Jane Allday 19th August 1886 married in the Catholic Apostle Church West Bromwich.
He was 24yrs old bachelor, grocer’s porter living in Tantany Lane West Bromwich.
She a 30yr old spinster at Greets Green Road West Bromwich.
There is no father for her but I suspect she is illegitimate.
His father is given as Benjamin Hancox farm Labourer.
This would seem to disprove earlier theories on this posting that he might be Benjamin Cuff.

I have no knowledge of the Hancox family being Catholic but wonder if this may explain why I can’t find Benjamin’s birth in about 1862. Would this be recorded some where else if they were Catholics?