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Offline edwinwrg

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Census question
« on: Sunday 03 February 08 13:26 GMT (UK) »
how can i enter an addreess into a census to find who is there.
i am trying to locate the Aston Manor fire brigade in the 1891 and 1901 census to see who was at the fire station.
I am using the ancestry.co census.
I would appreciate any help given as i am trying to locate my ggrandfather albert lissimore who was a fire man at this station
many thanks edwin
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Re: Census question
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 February 08 13:34 GMT (UK) »
Only Ancestry 1881 has address search feature ....


1901 you can search by address from the Govt site, but it costs.


Otherwise on Ancestry you have to trawl the pages - need to know which Ward and E. Parish the place was to speed it up a bit ...  :)


Is Albert not showing up in a name search ?


When & where was he born ?
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Re: Census question
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 February 08 13:45 GMT (UK) »
many thanks for your reply. Albert has a habit of changing his name. also the only address details i have are Aston manor fire brigade.which is in aston,birmingham (uk).
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Re: Census question
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 February 08 13:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Edwin,

West Midlands Fire Service has a Community Heritage Group which, according to the website, is able to offer assistance with enquires received from members of the public into their relatives who may have worked for one of the old Brigades.  Perhaps it would be worth contacting them, there is an email address on the website

http://www.wmfs.net/communityheritagegroup.xtml

Have you found him in any other census, what year roughly was he born?

Barbara  :)

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Re: Census question
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 February 08 14:25 GMT (UK) »
many thanks for your reply. Albert has a habit of changing his name. also the only address details i have are Aston manor fire brigade.which is in aston,birmingham (uk).
edwinwrg


Where did you get the address details from? Do you know when and where he was born? In the census people who were at work on the census night were to be enumerated in their homes if they returned there the next day.

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Re: Census question
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 February 08 15:59 GMT (UK) »
There are street indexes to most sizeable towns, but they are typescript, and the only copies are at the Family Records Centre (local record offices may have copies). They will be available at Kew after Easter, and will go online eventually, but not in the very near future, unfortunately.

You could send an email request to the FRC for the reference, assuming the fire station appears in the street index, but they normally do. Alternatively, you can look at the description pages of the enumeration districts in the area, which should also mention it. If he is not at the fires station itself, he should be nearby, so browsing through an enumeration district or three may find him. Back in Ye Olden Tymes, when there were hardly any name indexes, that was the only way, winding through films...

Anyone remember the old census search room in Portugal Street...Aagh?

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Re: Census question
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 February 08 16:07 GMT (UK) »
many thanks for all the help given,i will try trawling first then if i dont find it i will try emailing the birmingham library and if they have it  i can collect it on my next visit to brum.
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Re: Census question
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 February 08 17:06 GMT (UK) »

Anyone remember the old census search room in Portugal Street...Aagh?


Back in the 'good old days' - they were the same up here in the north, endless handle-turning on old machines.......

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Re: Census question
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 February 08 17:40 GMT (UK) »
It wasn't the microfilm readers I  minded (there are still plenty of theose at the FRC and at Kew), it was the rest of the 'Portugal Street Experience' that makes me appreciate the facilities we have now.

First of all the 'is there a vacant seat' guessing game. If it looked busy, you could wander round hoping there was a seat free, but if there wasn't you had to join the queue that had now formed on the upholstered bench with the busted springs. Once you had a seat, you had to navigate the 'finding aids' such as they were, and complete a slip to order the film you wanted. There were fixed collection times, when an obedient queue would form. If the wrong film was delivered that was too bad, you had to order it again and wait for the next delivery!

We thought we had died and gone to heaven when the new census rooms opened in the basement of the old PRO building in Chancery Lane.

But as for St Catherine's House...

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