Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.

[JoMC]

 

I think J.J. is correct with the Edward Addicott and Ann Ingram:

1841
HO107/953 Book 7 Folio 24 page 14

Near Moorland House, North Petherton

Edward Addicott, 30-34 Lab
Ann, 30-34
Amelia, 12
Edward, 10
Louisa, 8
Job, 2
William, 3 mths

all born County

The must have married late 1820s by the age of Amelia

Gadget

[JoMC]

Just trying to get the tree sorted:

William Wood b. 12 July 1900, Cowbridge, Glamorgan
Parents - Charles Wood and Ann Kate Trott (m. June Q, 1898, Newport, Glamorgan)

Ann Kate Trott - b. Mar Q, 1877, Brigend (v 11a, page 575)
Parents - Henry Trott and Ann Addicott (m. March q, 1872, Bridgewater, Somerset)

Henry Trott -
Parents possibly John Trott and Sarah

Ann Addicott
Parents possibly Edward Addicott and Ann Ingram


Gadget

[JoMC]

A Map of the North Petherton/Bridgewater area:

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and of the Cowbridge area:

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[dollylee]

Just here for a second because I can't sleep.  Can't say I have been really following Kate's ancestors, or parents at least but I did notice her father's name was Henry.

Not sure if Wales followed the English Naming Traditions of sons: father's father's name oldest born, mother's father's name second born or not.  But this does lead some credence to the fact that poor Kate may have NOT been with Charles when Henry was born. (explains unusual place of birth, no wedding date before birth,  other sons following 6 years later & the use of Henry for a name) might explain why no birth for Henry Wood/s can be found, also might explain why Henry didn't make the trip over with them.  If Henry was 6 in 1901 by 1906 at the age of 11 he may have gone to natural father, thought he was old enough to stay...not wanting to go...or didn't want to go with Charles.

Did we (meaning any of you) look for a death of a fairly young Henry Trott?

If this makes no sense I could be sleepwalking.  If it does maybe I can stop thinking about it and go to sleep   

Anyway I leave it with you and go off to bed.

dollylee

p.s.  If it's ridiculous......it was typed by my sub-conscious (sp?) because it really doesn't have anything to do with anything does it as he would only be a half brother at best.

[JoMC]

A marriage for Edward Addicott and Ann Ingram from Somerset Marriage index (FHO):

30 December 1827, North Petherton

No other details


Hi Dolly

I had wondered about the Henry! I can't find a birth record for a henry Trott (variations) or Wood(s) in Edinburgh.

Wales did at one stage follow a similar naming pattern but (we also had patronymics as well!)   but not as rigid at that time. Also, Kate's family were from Somerset so    I've been trying to find Ann/Kate (alts) and family on the 1891 - no luck so far in Eng Wales or Scotland - or her family.

Given the age discrepancy (Kate b. 1877 and Charles b.c. 1860) , I'm wondering if Charles had married before.

Gadget

PS - I looked for a death of Henry (Wood(s) and Trott)  but the only ones were for someone born circa 1900 

[KarenM]

Good Luck Gadget and Dolly!!

[JoMC]

I've had a quick look through the thread and don't think this has been found before - not surprised really as they were indexed as Flett but quite clearly Trott:

1891

RG12/4453 Folio 6 Page 6
Globe Inn, Cowbridge

Henry Trott, 45, Licensed Victualler, b. Somerset, North Petherton
Ann, 34, b.Somerset, North Petherton
Ann K, 14, scholar, b. Glamorgan, Cowbridge
Henry W, 10, scholar, b. Glamorgan, Cowbridge
Sarah A, 5,  scholar, b. Glamorgan, Cowbridge
Susannah, 3, b. Glamorgan, Cowbridge

And 15 lodgers

How he got from being a road labourer and she a Toolgate keepeer in 1881 to having a pub/lodging house I'm not sure but it must be them!

Also - maybe that's how Ann Kate met Charles 

Also, on the 1901, Charles and Kate seem to have a lodging house at The Rhiew - a very long list of boarders after the family.

Gadget

[JoMC]

Now here's a turn up for the books:

in 1901:

RG13/5047 Folio 25 Page 41
Trott's Lodging House, Cowbridge

Henry Trott, 60, Coal Merchant and Lodging House Keeper, b. Somerset, North Petherton
Ann, 50, b. Somerset, North Petherton
Henry W, s, 20, saddler, b. Glamorgan, Cowbridge
Annie, d,15, b. Glamorgan, Cowbridge (Sarah A on the 1891)
Minnie, d,13, b. Glamorgan, Cowbridge (Susannah on 1891)
Henry Wood, Grandson, 2, b. Glamorgan, Cowbridge

So is this the same Henry who is down as aged 6 with Charles and Kate and a duplicate entry (it often happened) or what 

Gadget


Added - still concerned about Ann (mother) she's down in the censuses as born 1851-54 

[JoMC]

There are quite a few <name> Henry Wood in the Cardiff/Bridgend/Newport area 1896-1900, so not sure.

There is also a very interesting one which might fit the 1901, aged 6 one:

Charles Henry Wood, Newport, June q,  1896.

So which is what and what is which