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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #63 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Well hopefully Genie will go over to Willy's son house today and we will get some little tidbit.

Genie, you'll have to invite Willy's son to our meet again in August, same time same place  ;D

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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #64 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Border crossing for Wilford, May 14, 1929, Lewiston Crossing

Accompanied by 1/2 sister Helen, age 20
AGe:  28 years
Occupation:  Truck Driver
Place of Birth:  Norwood, Ontario
Race:  England
Destination: Buffalo, New York
Going to Join Uncle John Anderson, 72 Alban Street
Purpose of Coming: Visit, one month
Height:  5'6"
Complexion:  Dark
Hair:  Brown
Eyes:  Gr.
Father:  Henry, Norwood, Ontario

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Hi Karen
First thanks for all the work your doing.
You are really turning up good facts.
Notation says accompanied by half sister Helen that is in fact my Mother. She was Helen Bowman and as far as I know or am actually finding out she ran away with my Dad when she was 15.
This may have been a lie they told the border crossing to get thru.
She was born Feb 6 1914.

There is a reference to going to visit an Uncle John Anderson who is someone I have never heard of, but will check with my older sister and see if she knows of him.

Roger  ;D


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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #65 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Genie,

Here's the marriage info:

James Woods
Born: On   (?????) 
Age: 20 
Father: Woods
Mother: Woods

Spouse: Maudie Garton
Age: 20 
Birth Place: England 
Father: George Brooks
Mother: Beatrice Garton

Marriage: 4 Dec 1922
Place: York 
County: York

***** Did you have the Brides name prior to today as the birth location does not match? 
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Wilfred E Thistlethwaite
Born: England 
Age: 22 
Father: Henry A Thistlethwaite
Mother: Amelia Jane Lobb

Spouse: Alberta Kelly
Age: 17 
Born: Ontario 
Father: Frank Kelly
Mother: Sarah Derbyshire

Marriage: 9 Feb 1923
Place: Peterborough 
County: Peterborough 
District: Peterboro

Hope that helps,
Nancy 


Hi Nancy
Once again thanks for all this.
The reference to James marrying Maudie Garton is correct but the birth places have been reversed by the Clerk I believe.
Maudie was born in Ontario and was the daughter of the family living at 334 Dufferin where James and my Dad lived with his first wife as roomers and James was born in England (Wales).

All of the details of my father's first marriage to Alberta Kelly are correct other than his birth place which is shown as England.
I suppose the clerk put that or my father may have said that rather than trying to explain Wales.
Roger

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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #66 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 19:41 GMT (UK) »
HI Roger,

Where was Helen Bowman born?

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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #67 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Also, for what it's worth (and it may be nothing)  I found a Charles Wood in the 1881 British Census who could be of the right age.  It was the same Charles Wood as in the marriage of the 29 year old widower I had listed above. In 1911 he is working as a Millwright at a Hydro Electric Company in Woodstock.   Nipigon also has a large Hydro Electric System so there may be some connection.......



dollylee

Good shot.
I think all in this posting makes a lot of sense.
If my grandfather was widowed in 1907 he could certainly have remarried in 1908 and I often wondered why the different place like Nippigon. If he had a relative (brother) living there this could explain why going that far.
Thanks for your efforts, seem to be a good lead.
Roger

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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #68 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen
My mother was born on Brock Avenue in Toronto.
Her Mother was Annie Bowman and father Ed Bowman.
We have a birth certificate for this.
Just don't have it on hand.
My main interest is trying to get info on Dad's history prior to going intro the orphanage.

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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #69 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 19:55 GMT (UK) »
I was just curious as I have Bowman's in my tree, my grandma was a Bowman  :) (she was born in Guelph)

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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #70 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 20:16 GMT (UK) »
On that Charles Wood marriage in Woodstock that Dolly found, Charles lists his parents as Amos Wood and Mary Coll, but when you look at the census he, Charles is with his parents in 1881, 91 and 01, but the mother's name is Rhoda on the census and there is a marriage in Bradford, Yorks of Amos Wood and Rhoda Muff in 1868.

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Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #71 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 21:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dollylee & all...
There is a birth ( unlisted  source) on the IGI - for an Emma Hannah Wood to Amos E Wood and Mary Anne Coll in Oxford Ontario...in 1869....
and there doesn't seem to be a marriage for that couple in England...
  However as you've noted, no other Charles Wood come up under head of household as Amos...(no Emmas either-sheesh) ( in 1881)

This doesn't take away from your find, though...re: Hydro work, as that makes lots of sense.... & you never know, Charles might still have been born Canada, but married and had children in Wales

I do perhaps see Amos E. ( Woods) in 1901, widowed with only parents (WENTWORTH & BRANT N.) but no sign of same in 1881...
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=109393&highlight=18

I second the motion that mother's name should have been put on the document...My hubby's grandfather was just as forthcoming with his own father's name..it was listed as "dead"...

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