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Re: Irish in Co Durham
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 12 April 09 08:37 BST (UK) »
Hello JT Arthur,

Would you be kind enough to check your St Patrick's Felling records for any McGuires between 1860 - 1884.  My grandfather Patrick McGuire was born in Felling to Irish parents and was a Cathloic so they probably attended Syt Patrick's Chapel.

Many thanks

Chris Perry

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Re: Irish in Co Durham
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 12 April 09 10:18 BST (UK) »
Can you be more specific? I only have the marriages, do you know when your grandfather was born and the names of his parents?

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Re: Irish in Co Durham
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 12 April 09 12:42 BST (UK) »
I believe he was born in 1873 or 1874.  His father was Thomas McGuire.  I am not sure of his mother's name although it could have been Ann Jane

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Re: Irish in Co Durham
« Reply #57 on: Sunday 12 April 09 14:26 BST (UK) »
Sorry but Patrick's father does not appear to have married at St Patrick's, Felling. There is no marriage of a Thomas McGuire listed.

The GRO Index lists a Patrick McGuire whose birth was registered in the December quarter of 1874 at Gateshead which fits.

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Re: Irish in Co Durham
« Reply #58 on: Monday 13 April 09 00:20 BST (UK) »
Mnay thanks JTA for your help.  It was a long shot.  I have ordered a copy of the birth certificate for the Patrick McGuire you mention and will keep my fingers crossed.

Cheers

Chris

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Re: Irish in Co Durham
« Reply #59 on: Sunday 10 May 09 10:51 BST (UK) »
Yes, it was one of three marriages that took place 15th January 1881 by the then parish priest Fr Thomas Carr who didn't provide as many details as Fr Kelly during an earlier period.

Entry as follows:
James Frain of High Felling son of Mathias and Bridget Frain of Coxhoe
to
Hanna Green of High Felling daughter of John and Jane Green of High Felling.
witnessed by: Daniel and Mary Fitzpatrick both of Sheriff Hill.

You may be interrested in one of the other marriages of the same day as James acted as a witness as follows:

Patrick O'Neill of Felling Shore son of Patrick and Rose O'Neill of Felling Shore
to
Alice Connolly of Felling Shore daughter of Thomas and Margaret Connolly of Felling Shore
witnessed by: James Frain of High Felling and Anne Burns of Low Felling.

I have some notes on a Frain family from Ireland who lived at Tow Law if you think there is a connection.

J.T.A.

Great stuff, thanks J.T.A.

Certainly didn't have James' (my g.grandad) parents before, I'd always assumed he'd come across from Ireland by himself. Only problem now is I can't seem to locate Mathias and Bridget anywhere in the North East before or after this date!
The 1901 Census has James (born Roscommon abt 1835) and Hannah living in Newcastle with a lodger called Robert Green (Uncle to their kids) so this would seem to validate it's the right family.
Their are quite a few Children including John who was born before the marriage.

Hi Billy Fish,

I've just started looking up my family history and came across your post, my great great grandfather was James Frain the same as your g grandfather. My g grandmother was their daughter Bridget. I dont have much more info beyond James apart from what I have seen on your posts. I would love to know what info you have, i have a couple of photos of James Frain and have posted them maybe you have never seen these.

Hope to hear from you James. 

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Re: Irish in Co Durham
« Reply #60 on: Saturday 23 May 09 13:51 BST (UK) »
I had great help regarding Ireland at the following site.......

www.ancestralservices.com

I know its difficult if you do not know the County but it does work the other way too......imagine John Smith born England!

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Re: Irish in Co Durham
« Reply #61 on: Monday 01 June 09 22:26 BST (UK) »
Yes, it was one of three marriages that took place 15th January 1881 by the then parish priest Fr Thomas Carr who didn't provide as many details as Fr Kelly during an earlier period.

Entry as follows:
James Frain of High Felling son of Mathias and Bridget Frain of Coxhoe
to
Hanna Green of High Felling daughter of John and Jane Green of High Felling.
witnessed by: Daniel and Mary Fitzpatrick both of Sheriff Hill.

You may be interrested in one of the other marriages of the same day as James acted as a witness as follows:

Patrick O'Neill of Felling Shore son of Patrick and Rose O'Neill of Felling Shore
to
Alice Connolly of Felling Shore daughter of Thomas and Margaret Connolly of Felling Shore
witnessed by: James Frain of High Felling and Anne Burns of Low Felling.

I have some notes on a Frain family from Ireland who lived at Tow Law if you think there is a connection.

J.T.A.

Great stuff, thanks J.T.A.

Certainly didn't have James' (my g.grandad) parents before, I'd always assumed he'd come across from Ireland by himself. Only problem now is I can't seem to locate Mathias and Bridget anywhere in the North East before or after this date!
The 1901 Census has James (born Roscommon abt 1835) and Hannah living in Newcastle with a lodger called Robert Green (Uncle to their kids) so this would seem to validate it's the right family.
Their are quite a few Children including John who was born before the marriage.

Hi Billy Fish,

I've just started looking up my family history and came across your post, my great great grandfather was James Frain the same as your g grandfather. My g grandmother was their daughter Bridget. I dont have much more info beyond James apart from what I have seen on your posts. I would love to know what info you have, i have a couple of photos of James Frain and have posted them maybe you have never seen these.

Hope to hear from you James. 

James,

Fantastic stuff if it's the same James Frain we've got!
I've certainly not seen the photograph before and would be very interested in any others you may have and any information relating to them.
The family of James and Hannah that I have is as follows

Male (looks like Jane in the census but it's male!) 1876, Felling
John 1877, Felling
Mary Hannah 1881, Hetton-le-Hole
Bridget 1884, Felling (your  g Grandma?)
James 1886, Wardley
Rose Ann 1889, Newcastle
Ellen 1890-1979, Newcastle (My Grandma)
Ann 1893, Newcastle
Matthew 1896, Usworth

I've still not been able to trace anything back on James,  or his Parents Mathias and Bridget, before 1881 or been able to find them in the 1881 census. Is the Photograph of James the elder or of the son? If it's the elder and he was in the army that could account for him being elusive earlier. He may well have been married before Hannah as the two elder children were born well before the marriage  ???
I've managed to go back a little bit further with his wife Hannah Green, let me know if the above fits with your information and we can compare notes further if we have a hit!!




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Re: Irish in Co Durham
« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 13:49 BST (UK) »
This is i know a very long shot

I know that John WATSON married Catherine CUGGAN of Co Tyrone in the Gateshead district in 1850

Is it possible that they married in Felling RC Church I think John was a widower Catherine would have been about 27 so she may also have been a widow

thank you for any help you can give.
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