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Re: Where is this memorial originally from?
« Reply #36 on: Friday 01 February 08 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Here are the names I think are possibly/probably those I can identify on CWGC.  Have also tried to match to possible 1901 census entries. 


Perhaps there will be a pattern in the addresses and areas which will throw up some more clues


John Bernard & Henry Thomas Eighteen
    Son of Mr. and Mrs. F. S. Eighteen, of Reading, Berks.

(Brother of Henry Thomas Eighteen - see 1901 Census RG13/1152/45/6)
Civil Parish:    St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Bartholomew



CHARLES EDWIN BOSTWICK
Son of Mr. C. H. and Mrs. L. Bostwick, of 64, Amity Rd., Reading, Berks.



FRANIS SYDNEY BRAIN
Son of Sydney and Gertrude Mary Brain, of "Kelvin," 48, Alexandra Rd., Reading. B.A. (Cambridge). Scholar of Trinity Hall, Cambridge.
(1901 census RG13/1150/1256
Civil Parish:    St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Giles and St Luke



WILFRID WALLACE DRAKE
Son of Mr. and Mrs. William Drake, late of Stalham, Norfolk; husband of Gladys Drake, of Reading, Berks.
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=139947


1901 in Norfolk RG13/1821/12/15





POSSIBLY..
ARTHUR E FREEMAN
513651 London Regiment (London Scottish)
Son of James and Mary Elizabeth Freeman, of 8, Castle St., Reading.
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=646890

1901 CENSUS RG13/Piece/1144/113/30
Civil Parish:    St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Mary the Virgin


POSSIBLY...
HORACE HARDING

Can't identify on CWGC

1901 CENSUS RG13/1152/50/15
Civil Parish:    St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Bartholomew



WALFORD VERNON KNOWLES
Son of Vernon and Winifred Knowles, of 7, Bloomfield Avenue, Bath. Born at Reading.
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=491741

1901 CENSUS RG13/1148/11/13
Civil Parish:    St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Giles and St Luke



STANLEY H MAY     137850 ROYAL ENGINEERS
Son of John Herbert May, of "Shalbourne", Shinfield Rd., Reading. Native of Beckenham, Kent.
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=487090

1901 CENSUS RG13/1145/30/18
Civil Parish:    St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish:    Holy Trinity




CHARLES WILLIAM MOSS  Royal Berkshire Regiment
Son of Charles and Margaret Moss, of Reading; husband of Edith Clara Moss, of "Dunnville," 118, Basingstoke Rd., Reading.    
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=185834

1901 CENSUS  RG13/1150/144/4
Civil Parish:    St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Giles and St Luke




HORACE L PINKER     203760
Son of John and Jane Pinker, of Reading.
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=337739

1901 CENSUS RG13/1148/24/39
Civil Parish:    St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Giles and St Luke
    


JOHN SATCHELL
Royal Marine Light Infantry    Submarine Mining Block "C"    PO/3333 (S)
Son of John and Ella Satchell, of "Highclere," 54, Westbrook Avenue, Margate. Born at Reading, Berks.
    
1901 CENSUS   RG13/1152/107/10
Civil Parish:    St Lawrence
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Lawrence



PHILLIP G STEER
Son of The Rev. Thomas R. Steer and Kate Steer, of "Fircroft," 66 Shinfield Rd., Reading. Native of Swanage.
Royal Fusiliers     "A" Coy. 17th Bn.    5716



FRANK G WEIGHT
Son of Henry Amos Weight and Florence Harriet Weight, of 42, Curzon St., Reading.
Royal Engineers32nd Div. Signal Coy.    103117
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=335989




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Re: Where is this memorial originally from?
« Reply #37 on: Friday 01 February 08 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Have to call it a night as I'm up stupidly early in the morning  :-[

Thank you so much everyone.  I have to say that I'm leaning towards contacting Alfred Sutton School at the moment.  Let's see what the weekend brings and decide in a few days.

Thank you all again.

Thudders
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Morris - Liverpool
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Hill - Gloucester
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Nelson - Liverpool
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Re: Where is this memorial originally from?
« Reply #38 on: Friday 01 February 08 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Amity Road, Alexandra Road, Shinfield Road, Northcourt Avenue, Basingstoke Road - all within an area of about 1 square mile.  It includes Christ Church, St Lukes Church and St Bartholomews church - same person in charge of both these last two.

I hope that lady replies soon - it would be nice to know if we're on the right track.

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Re: Where is this memorial originally from?
« Reply #39 on: Friday 01 February 08 23:37 GMT (UK) »


Good job Milly ! thank you !

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Re: Where is this memorial originally from?
« Reply #40 on: Friday 01 February 08 23:40 GMT (UK) »
Looking at a map.... (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Reading,+RG6+1JR,+UK&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title shows the school -but if you put the other roads in the search bit it shows where those are too)

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They are all around the area of the University.   The school is just to the north east.
Shinfield Road to the South West, and the other roads seem to be upwards from Shinfield Road along the west of the university to the north of it.  Definitely all in a very close area.

There is also the Royal Berkshire Hospital nearby. (Another potential developer of a site of a former church!)

If the school still have their memorial plaque - then my money is on the University having built a new building on an old church site. ::) ::) 
Perhaps an e-mail to their chaplain on Shinfield Road might be an idea?
   
Milly

Little Nell - how did you find out Rev Steer was a Congregational Minister?


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Re: Where is this memorial originally from?
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 02 February 08 12:03 GMT (UK) »
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how did you find out Rev Steer was a Congregational Minister?

I looked at a contemporary street directory, as well as the 1913 map - and current maps for comparison purposes.

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Re: Where is this memorial originally from?
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 02 February 08 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Well done - an interesting snippet although I guess the Reverend could be a red herring.  ;D

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Re: Where is this memorial originally from?
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 02 February 08 15:52 GMT (UK) »
Just catching up - at the 'coo's tail' as usual!!

Well done Thudders for rescuing the plaque!

I came across a very similar thing about a year ago. It was a brass WW2 plaque inside a church which had been earmarked for conversion into flats.

To cut a big convoluted story short, I phoned all the local ministers, told them about the plaque and each and every one of them said they'd be delighted and honoured to give it a new home. I now know it has gone to one of them - I've still to check which one though. Just not enough hours in the day!

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Re: Where is this memorial originally from?
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 02 February 08 20:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone.

Very many thanks for all your help.  I have also posted on another thread and someone has pointed me towards the Thames Valley Branch of the Western Front Association.

I think what may be best is to wait to see what the NIWMC come up with (after searching about 5000 records!) and see what the TV Branch of the Western Front Assn have to say before progressing further.

A good suggestion was also a local newspaper appeal, so I will be following that up too.

If no one specific location can be identified, my feelings at the moment would be to go for the Alfred Sutton School due to four of the chaps being definately associated with the school.  However, I have made no approach to them as yet.

Just my thought of the moment, but of course I will keep you all updated.
Very many thanks to you all.

Thudders
Dixon - London/Liverpool
Morris - Liverpool
Williams - Liverpool
Hill - Gloucester
Walker - London
Nelson - Liverpool
Martin - Gloucester
Simcock - Liverpool