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Re: marriage of William Strother Knaresborough 1863
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 02 February 08 13:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Wendy. I can now check stuff out as we have weathered the storm. Unfortunately there are no Sarah Swales in the Dec 1863 BMD, nor as far as I can tell any variation in spelling. I think I might have to buy the certificate, so if you are curious I will post when I get it.
Thanks again,
Geoff
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Re: marriage of William Strother Knaresborough 1863
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 02 February 08 17:17 GMT (UK) »
Ormus.  For the time being forget about censuses. Search for the marriage certificate.  This comes first.                 Gragareth.
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Re: marriage of William Strother Knaresborough 1863
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 02 February 08 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Geoff

Have you found your William and Sarah throughout the English census from Marriage to at least the 1901 census?


1871 as you posted it

1881 the surname is spelt as STOTHART and William is a Groom born SPOFFORTH

1891 the surname is still spelt as STOTHART and William is a still a Groom and is still born SPOFFORTH

1901 surname still spelt as STOTHART and William is still bron SPOFFORTH in this census this is where I foudn ALice Leak(e) nee Swales


If you forget for the moment the year of 1863 and look instead at Sept 1864 and look at spelling William's name as above STOTHART you will see what I am going on about.


 ;) ??? ;) ??? ;)


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Re: marriage of William Strother Knaresborough 1863
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 02 February 08 18:45 GMT (UK) »
HI Geoff


Just to say that in the 1851 census his name is shown as STROTHART


So please allow for some spelling errors in transcription  and just check out that Sept' 1864 marriage

Wendy
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Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks


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Re: marriage of William Strother Knaresborough 1863
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 02 February 08 21:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Winston and Gragareth. You saved me a bundle of money (actually $10) and this is the answer! The spelling has been a curse on my research for a long time; in fact when William's uncle arrived in Manchester the name appears as "Scrouther"!
Thanks again,
Geoff
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Re: marriage of William Strother Knaresborough 1863
« Reply #14 on: Friday 06 August 10 20:54 BST (UK) »
I know that it was a while ago when you were asking for details of William Strother and his wife Sarah.  I have a William Stother who married a Sarah Gale. Unfortunately I do not have Williams DOB or date of his marriage. William and Sarah lived in Ripon where he was a boot and shoe maker.  He had at least 2 children - Susan and Elizabeth. DOB's for these are also unknown.  I realised that the surname is slightly different but at the beginning of my hand written book the name started off as Strother and the family lived in various places including Killinghall, Ilkley, Armley, Beadale, Knarsborough and originally came from Wallington, Northumblerland.  Do you have any more information of your family of Strothers.  The book that I have was written in 1825 and goes back to 1709.

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Re: marriage of William Strother Knaresborough 1863
« Reply #15 on: Friday 06 August 10 23:51 BST (UK) »
I do not think we have the same person. My William married Sarah Swales in Pateley Bridge in 1864, and he was either shown as a servant or a groom in the census returns. His children did not include Susan nor Elizabeth.
I have been in contact with researcher in Yorkshire who mentioned that the family name originated in Southern Scotland but a branch emigrated to Yorkshire in the later middle ages.

There are lots of variations in the spelling of his last name.  I have traced my branch of the family to Henry Strothard who was born about 1760 and was a laborer in Hampsthwaite between marriage in 1802 and his death in 1828.

Hope this helps,
Geoff
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Re: marriage of William Strother Knaresborough 1863
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 19:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info