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Offline woozle

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of this parish
« on: Wednesday 30 January 08 15:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi all
 I have a marriage where the wife, spinster is OTP which is fine because she was in fact at least resident there before she married. Her hubby on the other hand is listed as robert stimson of buckland. Now there are no births for a robert in buckland apart from one who would have been 8 when he married so that's out.  Is there a consensus out there as to the significance of "from somewhere" when indicating other than otp.? Did you for example have to be born there or just be resident or perhaps was it simply where you caught the bus from to get to your wedding? The marriage took place in 1787.
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Re: of this parish
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 15:42 GMT (UK) »
The parish referred to is usually that where the person is resident at that time, so you man may have been resident in Buckland, but is does not necessarily mean her was born there.

I have several examples in my tree, where one of the couple are said to be of a certain parish, but their baptisms occur in a different county.

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: of this parish
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 16:29 GMT (UK) »
In Somerset, West Buckland & Buckland St Mary sometimes get shortened to just Buckland - is there any other possible parish near to the marriage that at least has Buckland as part of the name?
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Re: of this parish
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the posts.
I have just checked all bucklands in wikipedia for the uK - 17. Most are covered by the IGI fortunately. It's an avenue I hadn't thoght about as Buckland oxon is the nearest and most logical.
Another thing i hadn't though about was that if you are born in a parish known to the population of the one you're marrying in then you'd most probably put that and not where you were resident. I would think it more probable to put your place of residence when you came from OUTside the "known" world.
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Woozle
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 22:47 GMT (UK) »
As Jebber  said you are of the parish you reside in for example I lived for several years in the Welsh parish where I married my banns were for "Spinster of this parish" but I was born and baptised 300 miles away across the English border. It isn't only a modern problem one ancestor born in oxfordshire married in Worcestershire back in 1873 and another also born N Oxfordshire married in Birmingham in 1849.
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 22:58 GMT (UK) »
There could be several reasons why he has changed parish if he was from a poor family for example he may have been apprenticed out side his parish such apprenticeships were favoured by the poor law commissioners as it prevented settlement and therefore potential expense to the parish. You had to be resident and work for one master for a full year to be settled and subject to the parish charities and so on. For the same reason many ag labs can be found in different places for each child's baptism their contracts rarely ran for a full year closing at 11 months. You find interestung settlement examinations in Parish chests when you know which parish you want. I have some examples on me web site under Parish Chest Settlements for my ancestors.
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 23:06 GMT (UK) »
If they were married by Banns then the banns have to be called in the parish of residence of both parties and those will be the parishes recorded for the marriage.  For marriage by licence they should also be the parishes of residence.

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Re: of this parish
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 January 08 01:20 GMT (UK) »
(There are at least two places called Buckland in Hampshire too... and I imagine in a lot of other counties as well)