Harriet HANSON b.1900 Census background- COMPLETED

[SASHAR]

Hoping someone may be able to help with a Census lookup for Harriet Louisa HANSON B.1900 Doncaster, West Riding, Yorkshire.

I have her marriage details etc.  just looking for background information  i.e.   parents, siblings, occupations.

Many thanks,  Sashar

[Ecneps]

Hi Sashar,

Plenty of background here, although it doesn't show Harriet's parents, you may need her birth cert for that - although you have her marriage details, what's her father's name and occupation from the certificate?

1901 census RG13/4404 fol.45 p.4/5
9 Mount Pleasant Cottages, High Road, Balby with Hexthorpe, Doncaster
George SHAW head m 34 Stationary Engine Tenter  Doncaster Yorks
Nelly        "      wife  m 24                           Sheffield Yorks
Daisy       "      dau        5                           Balby         "
John HANSON f-in-law m 54 Tailor              Rossington "
Harriet   "      m-in-law m 51                       Derbyshire Whorley?
Julia       " sister-in-law s 22                       Notts Howrath?
Alice      "        "            s  18 Domestic servant "        "
William  "  bro-in-law       11 Scholar          Balby Yorks
Harriet  "    niece            8 months               "         "

Barbara 

[Ecneps]

Here's the family in 1891:

1891 RG12/3859 fol.65 p.43
West Terrace, Balby with Hexthorpe, Doncaster, Yorkshire
HANSON
John head m 43 Engine Driver Stationary  Rossington, Yorks
Harriet wife m 41                             Wooley Yorks
Georgiana dau s 18                          Sheffield  "
Julia            "       12 Scholar             Hanworth Notts
Alice            "       10    "                          "           "
Syble          "         4    "                    Tickhill Yorks
William       son      1                         Balby      "

wonder if Harriet was Georgiana's daughter 
birth registered as Harriet Hanson 1900 Sept Qu Doncaster 9c 810 if you wish to buy the certificate

Barbara

[Ecneps]

Georgina Hanson married Francis Nicholas Stoppani 1895 Sept Qu Doncaster 9c 964

1901 RG13/4410 fol.74 p.20
7 Scott Lane, Doncaster
Francis Stoppani  son m 25 Cab Driver groom Doncaster
Georgina   "  dau-in-law 27                  Sheffield
Ada           "  granddau    4                   Balby Doncaster
Harry        "   grandson    1                   Doncaster
Nicholas   "      head   w 70 Cab Proprietor stable  Doncaster

Barbara

[Ecneps]

There don't seem to be any sons who could be Harriet's father....

1881 census RG11.3307 fol.71 p.21
Harworth, Worksop, Nottinghamshire
HANSON
John       head m 33 Engine Driver Rossington Yorks
Harriet   wife   m 31 Ag. Attendant Thrashing Machine Derbyshire
Florence Elizabeth dau 12 Scholar Sheffield
Ada Margetta  dau 10 Scholar  Awkley Yorks
Georgina           "     8    "          Sheffield
Nelly                  "     4    "               "
Julia                  "      2               Notts Haworth

Barbara

[SASHAR]

Hi Barbara,
Thanks for the info -  mmm!   Does look a bit like Harriet's mother may have been Georgina.   At present I don't have any certificates, just gathering info off Free bmd and LDS.
If I have the right Harriet Hanson (that is what the family say her name was and she was the only one I could find) and she was born 1900, I found her marriage to Charles Edward Miller, Mar Q 1913 Yorkshire.    She was only 13 !!!   She had her lst child by Sept Q 1913.
Just got your last post - maybe Harriet is Julia or Alice's child?   Julia would have been 21 and Alice 17 in 1900 when Harriet was born.  Oh dear, looks like some outlaying of money might be needed here for certificates.

Isn't it amazing how John HANSON'S occupations changes from an Engine Driver in 1891 to a Tailor in 1901 !

I appreciate your help with this - regards,  Sashar

[Dalum]

Sashar,

Just to avoid the possibility of heading down the wrong line  ...

... you referred to Harriet Louisa HANSON in your original posting. The only birth of a Harriet Louisa in the GRO index for 1900 was registered in Bethnal Green. The child in the above family was registered in Doncaster as plain Harriet. How strong is the evidence for the Doncaster connection? Do you have later evidence for her middle name?

Hugh

[avm228]

I agree that caution is called for before jumping to conclusions on this one.

The 1913 marriage was of Harriet Hanson (no middle name given) to Charles E. Miller, Mar 1913 Sculcoates 9d 404. 

Yorkshire BMD shows that the marriage took place at Sculcoates Register Office:

http://yorkshirebmd.org.uk

A baby who was 8 months old in the 1901 census (i.e. born in about July 1900) would have still been 12 years old in the Mar qtr of 1913.  Regardless of the legal position, this would make her an extraordinarily young bride. National Statistics show that even the 16yr old bride was a rarity by the 20th century (making up 1 per cent of first-time brides in 1911-1915).  So, if it were me, I'd be buying the marriage certificate to ensure that I had the right Harriet

Anna

[Ecneps]

Sashar,

Just to avoid the possibility of heading down the wrong line  ...

... you referred to Harriet Louisa HANSON in your original posting. The only birth of a Harriet Louisa in the GRO index for 1900 was registered in Bethnal Green. The child in the above family was registered in Doncaster as plain Harriet. How strong is the evidence for the Doncaster connection? Do you have later evidence for her middle name?

Hugh

Have been offline for a while, but I do agree with Hugh and Anna.

I did say that the registration in Doncaster was for just Harriet, but thought you must know that she was born Doncaster or I would have considered the Harriet Louise from Bethnal Green.  I thought you said you had her marriage details ( including age ) from her marriage certificate, not just a possible from freebmd etc, and she would surely not have been 13. 

Do you know that she definitely married Charles Miller - if so, you will need that cert if you don't have it, for ages, occupations,  and fathers' names and occupations.

Barbara