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Any Scouting experts out there?
« on: Tuesday 29 January 08 20:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have 2 photographs of my great uncle (William G Wells 1899-194) who was a patrol leader in the All Saints , Harrow Weald (Middlesex) Scout Group.

I wonder if there are any experts out there who can deduce any further information from them - badges etc?One picture is "taken" from the other - if you know what I mean!).

Is there a more appropriate board for me to post them on?

Regards & thanks on advance


Jan

The archivist at the Church is also interested in the history of these pictures!
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Re: Any Scouting experts out there?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 08:43 GMT (UK) »

Have you thought about contacting the Scouts head office? Their website is www.scouts.org.uk.


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Re: Any Scouting experts out there?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I did contact them a while back - but they seemed to be more interested in having a copy of the pictures - will try them again!!

Regards


Jan
Hertfordshire - Stone, Wells, Quarry,Claxton
London - Sutton (Southwark/Clerkenwell), Phillips (Clerkenwell), Stone (Chelsea)
Suffolk - Turner & Rogers (Lavenham)
Norfolk - (K)Nobbs & Germany (Norwich)
Middlesex - Shackell
Anywhere - Quarry & variants
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Re: Any Scouting experts out there?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 20:23 GMT (UK) »
H Jan,

Fantastic photo  ;D  ;D

I will be at my local scout group on Monday, so I could take along the photo - if thats ok? The scout leader may be able to identify the old badges etc.we also have old scouting books so may be able to help to identify the old proficiency badges. I think one is possibly a pioneer badge but not entirely sure.

We still have that type of tent which the scouts have to learn how to put up, they have enough trouble sometimes with the modern tents let alone the old ones. They've got the same mischievous look in their eye though even 90 odd years later  ;D

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 20:32 GMT (UK) »


Hi Jan !

It may take you a while to browse but maybe these sites will help you !!

http://www.johnrhoggarth.co.uk/

http://www.patchcamp.com/

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Zoe

Many thanks for the offer - I would be most grateful. The picture is of my great uncle who died of diptheria aged 14 in 1913. I have a newspaper cutting about his funeral. He was one of the first scouts in his area. When I contacted the Scouts association several years ago, they said that they had no records of this particular scout group - they had not survived.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Jan

P.S. Have attached the newspaper clipping - in case anyone is interested. My grandfather attended the funeral (he was going out with my gran (William's sister) at the time. He said it was a "very military-like " funeral)
Hertfordshire - Stone, Wells, Quarry,Claxton
London - Sutton (Southwark/Clerkenwell), Phillips (Clerkenwell), Stone (Chelsea)
Suffolk - Turner & Rogers (Lavenham)
Norfolk - (K)Nobbs & Germany (Norwich)
Middlesex - Shackell
Anywhere - Quarry & variants
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Re: Any Scouting experts out there?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 20:45 GMT (UK) »
Annie

Thanks for the links - will have a look at them tomorrow - have got a day off work!


Regards

Jan
Hertfordshire - Stone, Wells, Quarry,Claxton
London - Sutton (Southwark/Clerkenwell), Phillips (Clerkenwell), Stone (Chelsea)
Suffolk - Turner & Rogers (Lavenham)
Norfolk - (K)Nobbs & Germany (Norwich)
Middlesex - Shackell
Anywhere - Quarry & variants
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Re: Any Scouting experts out there?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Jan,

Such a shame about your great uncle but the description of his funeral is wonderful (if you know what I mean)

Pity about there being no records of the group, I see from the All saints web site that the group are one of the oldest in the world.

Thank you for the links Annie

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Hawkesworth - Staffs, Derbyshire
McConnell - Ireland, Warwick. Cannock
Grantham - Warwickshire & New Zealand
Wall, Kavanagh, Dollard - Ireland: Laois
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 January 08 01:16 GMT (UK) »
What a great thread. I hope the Scouts Association do get a copy of the picture and then do a bit of research to put this troop back into the archive.
I think it is an unexploited area of research. My own Mum was Hampshire's first Queen's Guide and met Lady Baden-Powell and Princess Margaret at the award ceremony in 1948, and I'd love to see more people taking an interest in this type of award :)
So sad about the Scout who died.. the newspaper report is very moving in a strange way.. They must have been really struggling with their "stiff upper lip" :(